Featured 1669 geometry book

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  1. Scott Eidam

    Scott Eidam Well-Known Member

    I was driving home from work yesterday and stopped at a yard sale. Found this treasure! It was going to end up in the trash if i didnt rescue it?!?! Maybe somebody here can tell me a little bit about if you can read in another language. 20190413_152754_compress_3.jpg 20190413_152825_compress_62.jpg 20190413_152917_compress_88.jpg 20190413_152939_compress_70.jpg 20190413_152859_compress_93.jpg 20190413_153229_compress_87.jpg 20190413_153222_compress_4.jpg 20190413_153214_compress_24.jpg 20190413_153124_compress_65.jpg 20190413_153246_compress_65.jpg
     
  2. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    This has to be something like a 19th century reprint with the language updated. The French is quite modern. I would have more difficulty reading it if it were in the French of 1669. It does use those Ss that look like Fs. Could be later 18th century, I suppose. Maybe folks who know niceties of bookbinding & printing will see evidence that places it earlier.

    Edit: Bit of a rethink. Just saw j'ay for modern j'ai, the kind of language clue I was looking for. Still think it is not a first edition, but maybe older than I thought at first.
     
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  3. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Would like to see this better. It is a note of when & where purchased:

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  4. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Right to be cautious...

    "This book was plagiarized (sic) many times, especially in London, but also in Lausanne, Amsterdam, Berne, Venice and Rome and translations in English, Latin, German and Italian were done. These editions appeared very early (as early as 1671 in London) and almost every decade during the beginning of the 18th century saw several publications."

    http://architectura.cesr.univ-tours.fr/traite/Notice/Leclerc1669.asp?param=en

    Debora
     
  5. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    It also says how much was paid. Year looks like 1783 to me.

    Acheté à _Paris?_ le 19’ May 1783 pour 6 (?)
     
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  6. Scott Eidam

    Scott Eidam Well-Known Member

    The top of that page has been torn out ☹ 20190413_175616_compress_3.jpg
     
  7. Scott Eidam

    Scott Eidam Well-Known Member

    Could the name on the bottom possiby be the original owner? The ink is lighter than the top? 20190413_180213_compress_28.jpg
     
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  8. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    The name Du Barry appears in a couple of places. On the title page it is crossed out & replaced with what might be Louis Chollet. We last see it change hands in 1940 (gift of Lester ____?)

    This is a list of volumes in the library of one Jean Leonard of Brussels. Evidently it includes a copy of this book. I have to conclude that 'par mr. Buchotte' means that Buchotte was the publisher:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=r...AnoECAUQAQ#v=onepage&q=le buchotte de&f=false
     
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  9. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    No, I don't. Maybe both volumes were printed in one?

    https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/les-regles-du-dessein-et-du-lavis/

    Les régles du dessein, et du lavis : pour les Plans particuliers des Ouvrages & des Batimens, & pour leurs Coupes, Profils, Elévations & Façades, tant de l'Architecture Militaire que Civile . / [Buchotte] (1743)
     
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  10. Dave47

    Dave47 Active Member

    May well be an early edition - until 1800 or so, people did not throw away books. The DuBarry sig definitely looks like it is smooth and likely done with a quill. Damage cuts down its value, I am sure, but the slight unevenness of the edges is a good sign. My guess - in this condition, still in three figures.
     
  11. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Since it looks like it was bought, maybe not for the first time, in 1783, that's a fair guess.

    The list of available copies of the Buchotte book is ordered with cheapest first. Would think the leather bound copies farther down make for a good comparison of condition & price.
     
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  12. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    DuBarry is an allusion to Madame DuBarry (1743 - 1793). rather an indication that the scribbles try to give it more value than it has.
    the price was probably 6 deniers, the currency before the franc germinal.
     
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  13. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    What a cool find! Great that you rescued it.
     
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  14. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    I need to go to your yard sales! Cool find!
     
  15. Scott Eidam

    Scott Eidam Well-Known Member

    Ive been very lucky this season. Feels good. Last year was tuff lol.
     
  16. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    The DuBarry's were a noble family, they were around before and after Madame DuBarry, who married into the family. The name can be written as DuBarry or Du Barry.
     
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  17. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    And if you were making any pretense of being anybody, you had a respectable library.
     
  18. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Which is why I have a respectable library.:hilarious:
     
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