Featured S. Mordan & Co. Sterling Silver Dip Pen & Propelling Pencil Set w/Box! Ca. 1880

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by Shangas, May 13, 2015.

  1. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    These were on sale at a local antiques shop. They look like they've never, ever been used, and probably opened only a handful of times in their lives.

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    Marked: "S. MORDAN & CO".

    Date: Ca. 1880-1910.
    Material: Sterling Silver.

    No hallmarks, but I have it on good authority from a friend of mine who collects these (and has done, probably for longer than I've been alive!), that they are definitely sterling silver, based on the company's production history.

    They were also described as Sterling Silver in the original sale-ticket. I have no reason to not believe two separate opinions.
     
  2. Messilane

    Messilane Well-Known Member

  3. FlyingButtonRanch

    FlyingButtonRanch Crazy for old clothes buttons!

  4. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    I have searched EVERYWHERE on the pen AND pencil. Absolutely no hallmarks. The two gentlemen at the shop where I purchased it also scrutinised it. All three of us with loupes.

    We all reached the same conclusion - NO hallmarks.

    I'm well aware of the reputation of Mordan & Co., and how desireable they are. I've collected pens and antique writing equipment for over a decade. But I never thought I'd OWN one! Or a SET! In a BOX!

    I have consulted a friend of mine who collects antique pencils. She dated the set to 1880-1910. Mordan did produce several pen & pencil sets which were sterling silver, but not hallmarked, because of...well...LOOK AT IT!! Where are you gonna find a space to mark on that thing!?

    But she confirmed what the chaps at the shop said - no hallmarks, but more than likely, sterling silver. She said the heavy engraving wouldn't have been bothered with, if it was a cheaper pen and pencil set. Later sets produced by the company (after WWI) were silver-plated, but something this old was certainly solid.

    I have to say that I agree with their assessment. It seems silly to go to ALL THIS WORK if it isn't solid. She said the company also produced solid gold pen-and-pencil sets like this, which likewise, were unmarked.
     
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  5. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    Oh, my, but you do find the loveliest things.
     
  6. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Wow, so beautiful!
     
  7. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    You just love making us drool. :)
     
  8. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Nice find, Shangas! Beeyoutifull!
     
  9. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    Hehehe...Thanks folks...I'm still getting over the shock that they're really silver. I'll be honest I had my doubts.
     
  10. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi Shangas,
    You are going to have to start learning to use your nose. Literally some people can smell the difference between sterling and plate. I have about 80% record. I have one old friend of mine that has never made a mistake. She was amazing.
    greg
     
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  11. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    I have heard of people saying that, but I never understood how it worked?

    And apparently, taste as well?
     
  12. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I can smell if something is silver. Hard to describe why, though.
     
  13. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    I wish I knew how it worked :p
     
  14. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Beautiful!

    About the smelling of silver, I can understand how that would work but can also see why it would be hard to describe a smell in writing. Shangas, maybe you can take something that you know is silver and something that is plated and try smelling them to see what distinctions you can make?
     
  15. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    Perhaps...Not sure how good that'll work, but I'll give it a shot...
     
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