Featured Another Mystery Silver Utensil? Please help identify!

Discussion in 'Silver' started by Judy Wright, Mar 24, 2019.

  1. Judy Wright

    Judy Wright Member

    Here's my latest silver mystery item. 4" long, loads of English hallmarks - believe . Small 6-sided pot reservoir at bottom. Long hollow tube with a large silver end that looks similar to a big pen tip. Could this have anything to do with ink? With perfume? Sheffield, England from 1860

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  2. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Hello, Judy! May we see these "loads of English hallmarks" please? Determining the purpose of this object may be assisted by research on maker.
     
  3. Judy Wright

    Judy Wright Member

    Yes you may! OK there are three hallmarks (all similar) - On pot, there is a maker's initial mark HA, followed by Crown/Lion/S, which denotes Sheffield, England 1860, I believe. On the "Pen tip" - HA/Crown/Lion. On bottom of pot, a bonus lion.

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    THANKS!
     
  4. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    It's the upper part of something. Maybe capped a glass bottle, now broken? That ink was involved seems a reasonable surmise, with that screw on top. I can see how it might somehow be an attempt to make a less messy inkwell.
     
  5. Judy Wright

    Judy Wright Member

    That seems logical. My gut tells me that something is missing...could be a glass bottle.
     
  6. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    I'm afraid your date of 1860 is incorrect, although it is a Sheffield mark. First, there is no monarch's head (should be Victoria). Second the shape of the cartouche surrounding the date letter does not match the 1860 shape.

    It's either 1935 or 1960. See this illustration of marks from Sheffield for every S date latter.

    http://www.silvermakersmarks.co.uk/Dates/Sheffield/Date Letters S.html
     
  7. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    In which case, we may be looking at a set up for refilling a fountain pen with less risk of ink everywhere.
     
  8. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    it's a spout , missing it's bottle...
     
  9. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    I agree, Komo. I don't think the two items even went together to begin with.
     
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  10. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    Yes, they do go together

    The longer tube allows air into the bottle as your beverage comes out

    The 'bottom' is the cap

    Would have been cork around the thicker tube
     
  11. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    oh! That makes much more sense, Terry!
     
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  12. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    again i'm thinking salad oil..
     
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  13. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  14. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    And cork, as @terry5732 said

    It'd be unusual to have a screw cap like that (need for speed and all) but if it came from a finely detailed set that held really precious hootch, not so strange.

    Traveling on a ship, perhaps :)
     
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  15. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

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    Just spotted this at a local estate sale
     
  16. NaptownFTW

    NaptownFTW Active Member

    The mark appears to be HA for Atkin Bros-Harry Atkin. Online sources indicate pre WWII style mark, so S would be 1935. The punch is weak though, so I may be of.
    It looks like a decanter pour spout to me, with a threaded cap, like scoutshouse, terry5739, and komokwa suggested.
     
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  17. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    So I went and picked it up but the stopper is different
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