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Found a whole bunch of stuff whilst clearing a family home... Have managed to identify what most things are but am absolutely clueless as to what these are and/or if they are of any value?

 

Welcome, alangnw.
The brooch is 19th century. Could you photograph both sides with front lighting instead of back lighting?
Are there any marks, maybe on the pin?
Just wondering, did the family whose home you cleared have any connection with the Austro-Hungarian empire? The brooch looks like it could be from Hungary-Transylvania, that part of eastern Europe.

The pendant is much more recent, we have seen a similar one before, maybe one of the others remembers.

 

lapel pin..?

 

I thought it was a stick pin as I couldn’t see where or how the pin settled?

 

I think Alan has photographed a brooch folded open, if that makes sense. The pin would normally be behind the decorated part. There is probably a pin clasp, or remains of one, on the dark underside, photo 2.

 

I’m thrown by the length of the pin.

 

Bottom photo.............. https://www.amazon.com/Talisman-Pentacle-Hermetic-Enochian-Kabbalah/dp/B007I35QLK

 

I'd be thinking cloak clasp on the first piece, or half of one. It looks like there's a hook on the back to lock into another piece that's now missing. The longer bit would go straight down into your coat or jacket, possibly even a fur.

I'll let the Amazon dealer handle the round bit.

 

That's the one. Didn't we have one a while ago?

 

Probably doesn't look so enormous when photographed as a brooch. Mid 19th century brooch pins were generally pretty long, they were pinned back into the clothing when shut, for extra security.

 

Thanks for all the comments.

In answer to the questions. The items belonged originally to a friend of my late uncle via my mother. No links I know with the Austro-Hungarian empire - however these were alongside a number of items from the WW1 period (at least) and some other items - including various religious items/talismans which I assume were carried through the war (along with the pentacle medallion which I am confident is from the same period rather than a modern 'new age' novelty).

The pin is 5cm long, and the decorated piece is just over 3cm.



Apologies fur the blur... The amethyst looking gem at the centre has a slight chip. And knowing what little I do about the past of the person they came from I suspect there is a possibility the green stones may be real Emeralds.

 

Aha - what I thought was a hook is the base for a replaced and now missing clasp. Or just a missing clasp. The stones are most likely glass, although a decent jeweler ought to be able to tell you for certain. I've never seen an emerald cut that way, but if it's chrome diopside all bets are off.

 

Still looks like a brooch to me, but missing its clasp.
In this much better light it could be Chinese. I know, a world away from Central Europe. Brainfreeze has set in now, maybe @kyratango can shed a light on it.

 

still this pin looks way too long....
more like this though.......



& that round medal....does not look that old to me...... imo.

 

I think Chinese, looking at that enamel work. Possibly peridot rather than emeralds.

 

What color are the 2 end-most stones?

 

r those even stones...

 

I'd agree that there may be a clasp of some sort (most likely like the 1850 example above looking at it) broken off.

As for the two end 'stones' they're not stones they look like whatever material the other coloured areas are made of.

 

At first I was thinking Austro hungarian too... For Chinese, what question me is the hammered underneath of the enamel, somewhat similar to some Arts and Crafts era pieces
No idea for the use of such a long needle

 

As so often happens, when I bring my eyes back to a subject, they see it all differently. Yes, enamel, not any real or faux stone. My guess is all glass & enamel, Czech/Bohemian, quite avant garde in its day.