1700's DEMIJOHN BOTTLE WICKER COVERED

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Chris Roy, Nov 21, 2022.

  1. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    cuz u didn't know it existed till 5 minutes ago........:hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:
     
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  2. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Well then,it should've been deeded to me by God when I was a molecule-dang'it and dag-nab-it !
     
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  3. IvaPan

    IvaPan Well-Known Member

    Guys, I don't question the value or price, I just express my personal amateur opinion. It could be a thousand years' old bottle sold for a million, for me it is just my Granny's favourite vessel which I used to carry to the spring and fill with the sweetest water in the world. There was water supply in the house but my Granny was convinced (and I, too) that the most delicious water was in that particular spring.

    I might hit the flea market but I just can't sell the wicker bottle woven in spider nets in my Grandma's house, abandoned and empty. Let's call it stupid sentimentalism.

    Chris Roy, I am sure your bottle is gorgeous! Don't pay much attention to me, I ain't any expert and know nothing about values and selling prices.
     
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  4. Chris Roy

    Chris Roy Die With Memories, Not Dreams ...

    Looks awesome ! I have decided to open it since I am convinced it's not original but mostly because I am curious !. I will post an update with pictures in few hours! :smuggrin:
     
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  5. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    IvaPan-You just might put Granny's stuff in a safe place so they do not rot of break.
     
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  6. Chris Roy

    Chris Roy Die With Memories, Not Dreams ...

    Hi Everyone! So here is the Update! :joyful: PART 1
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  7. Chris Roy

    Chris Roy Die With Memories, Not Dreams ...

  8. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    for what it's worth...the bottle is indeed very nice.....
    use the basket as a bid house outside your window..;);):happy::happy:
     
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  9. Chris Roy

    Chris Roy Die With Memories, Not Dreams ...

    Thanks! I am happy I did that. Now I can really enjoy the bottle and all it's imperfections.

    LoL @ Bird House , maybe a good idea! :smuggrin::smuggrin:
     
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  10. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Well, it is a moot point now, but I was going to be a lone voice for keeping the wicker in place. It does seem that, if it was original, it would show more signs of use - unless the whole assemblage was a rare example of one that survived without actually having been put to use. :eek::oops:

    I hope you have learned something useful about the bottle by exposing it.

    Did your father keep any records about his acquisitions?
     
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  11. Chris Roy

    Chris Roy Die With Memories, Not Dreams ...

    Yes I am still a bit worried that it was original and very very well preserved / never been used but what is done is done. At least now I can see it in all it's glory !

    Well I didn't learn much except what I was expecting, lots of bubbles, bottleneck imperfections and open pontil marks at the bottom with imperfections as well.

    But I did discover that the bottle is intact and the real deal!

    I will keep the Wicker cover with it and trim it so it doesn't look damaged.

    Thanks for your input ! :happy:
     
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  12. Chris Roy

    Chris Roy Die With Memories, Not Dreams ...

    Yes I have lots of notes from my dad but mostly for the books.

    I spoke to him a few days ago and he told me he purchased this bottle about 20 years ago from a farmer he knew.

    The farmer had 2 of them and didn't want to sell them, but since he knew my father, he agreed to sell him one... for $25!

    So I think that was a heck of a deal! :)
     
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  13. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Very nice bottle... and I like this photo that you posted. Looks like the bottle has a halo, or light coming from it. :) Is that an old photo on the left? Looks like it is in three parts.

    Bottle halo.jpg
     
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  14. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Chris-You're in Quebec,one of the oldest European cities in North America and it has lots of history.You might consider checking to see if it has a local Bottle Collectors Club-most likely it does.
    These 'diggers' will most likely be able to date and appraise the bottle just as well as the historical society-and they won't ask you to donate it to them (for a 20-30% of it's value re a tax write-off).
    Clubs buy,sell & trade,and for a lot of members it's a passion but also a side-hustle for cash (they'd rather be digging than punching a time clock).
    A local college archaeologist could also probably provide some valid information.
     
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  15. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Here is a link to a page about demi-john/carboy bottles from one of the best sites I know. You can spend hours reading there.

    It seems to say, what I have heard before, that this type of bottle was likely made by hand much longer that other types of bottle. Anyway, happy reading if you haven't been there before:).

    https://sha.org/bottle/miscellaneous.htm#Carboys
     
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