Featured Bellarmine inspired salt glazed jug

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by TinaV, Feb 7, 2019.

  1. TinaV

    TinaV Member

    A6D670C2-D82C-49B9-9BD3-A75224D731B7.jpeg ADF99A03-AEDB-4BDA-857C-37C8D7018799.jpeg 09809317-F144-4FC2-A4C4-C85E9C50717B.jpeg 8487C319-CAA5-413B-9792-4442B492F54C.jpeg 92C81AF6-45F0-41D3-9DCC-6A018FD3A5F5.jpeg 50203E72-FBA8-4ED6-8D01-F73F4DF0629F.jpeg Hi everyone, I have a salt glazed jug with a bearded man face, Can you help me to identifying the mark on the bottom? Who could be the artist? I take photos from 2 directions. Thank you so much!
     
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  2. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    No help, but very cool face jug!!
     
  3. Christmasjoy

    Christmasjoy Well-Known Member

    WELCOME TinaV !!!! .. Joy. :)
     
  4. TinaV

    TinaV Member

    Thank you, a mouse mummy was in it.
     
  5. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Welcome to the Forum, Tina! :)
    We can see your photos better, if you hit Edit, More Options, Check first box Full Size All Images, Save Changes. :)
     
  6. TinaV

    TinaV Member

    Oh, thank you so much, I did it! Someone please help me to identifying this jug. I’m very excited!
     
  7. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    I’m sure someone will be along who can narrow it down for you. Not all members all knowledgeable about all subjects. Many people are in different countries, so make sure to check your post frequently for responses. :)
    Good job on the photos! Thank you! :)
     
  8. TinaV

    TinaV Member

    I’m from Hungary, it could be an European jug. I checked everywhere in English and in German, I read sites, I saw hundreds of photos, but I saw only Bartmanns Belarmine jugs with bearded male face. I haven’t found replicas with this technique and with mark. The different is, the face not embossed with stamp. But if I would know the age of the jug...
     
  9. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Maybe more of the right people will see it in pottery, porcelain, and glass Forum. I am asking @Bookahtoo or @daveydempsey to be kind enough to move it for you. Thank you, :)
     
  10. TinaV

    TinaV Member

    You are great!! Thank you very much! :cat:
     
  11. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    You’re Welcome.:)
     
  12. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Welcome. Have you asked the mouse?;)
     
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  13. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Hello and welcome -

    Here in the US we have what we call studio artists.
    People who make wares and sell at craft shows, art shows, street fairs, art galleries, etc.
    It is often difficult to find out who they are. Sometimes you get lucky though.

    I suspect that might be what you have. A jug made by a studio artist.

    It's a pretty cool jug.
     
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  14. TinaV

    TinaV Member

    No I haven’t. :shame::angelic:
     
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  15. TinaV

    TinaV Member

    I thank at first it could be a studio art jug, because I saw the incrised mark on that kind of potteries. Maybe I will ask the seller for more information about the origin of jug, where did he find etc.
     
  16. TinaV

    TinaV Member

    Now, the inside of jug is clean, free from mouse hair. :smuggrin:
     
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  17. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    you'd better find a German discussion board for this item.
    from form and color it's a Bartmannskrug from the Köln-Frechen region. they were typically colored in Kölnisch Braun (Cologne brown).
    from the traces of a lathe this seems to be a replica item from between 1850s to 1914.
     
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  18. TinaV

    TinaV Member

    I read more about the Hungarian ceramic tecnique and history.

    I found this:
    "A magas tűzön égetett sómázas kőcserép (Steinzeug) nem készült magyar fazekasműhelyekben, mert nem volt megfelelő alapanyag, megfelelő agyag. Magyarországra csak mint importáru került be, népi használata ritka."

    I translate this for you "The high-fired wares, or stonewares (Steinzeug) was not made in Hungarian pottery workshops, because there wasn't suitable raw materials or ingredients, suitable clay. These salt glazed stonewares has been imported to Hungary, the folk usage is rare." (Sorry for poor English). :cat:
     
  19. TinaV

    TinaV Member

    What a great information! Thank you! Not unthinkable, because in that time there was Austrian - Hungarian Monarchy.
     
  20. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    or as it is still called by some - Kack-Monarchie :hilarious:
     
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