Antique? Brass and Etched Glass bowl - floral - matching candlesticks

Hello, found this after googling brass candlesticks in hopes of finding out some info on these items. Looks like there are a lot of members with a ton of knowledge, and since I can't find anything in all my searches, I'm hoping someone can tell me something about these pieces? It's 2 brass candlesticks and matching "bowl holder" - etched glass and flowers and leaf pieces are adjustable. Any ideas?

 

@Nick Georgia I don't think these are in your area of interest, but maybe you have run across something in your adventures to help her.

 

Ok, it gave me an error that the image was too large. I'll try with the bottom ones. Here's the bottom of the bowl holder - see the screws that show all the branches are adjustable too.

 

Here's the bottom of the candleholders. I see what you mean about the full image option. Thanks for your help everyone!

 

Size - Candlesticks are just over 11" tall, the bowl piece is 8" tall

 

It's hard to see but it looks like the glass is gray cut, not etched. It is frosted because the cutting was not polished.

 

Thanks, that makes sense! I would feel ridges too if it were etched?

 

Yes, both techniques "dig" into the glass removing some material.

 

JMHO.
a french surtout de table (centrepiece) eventually fire-gilded.

 

I had to google just about every word! So, you think French in origin. How old? The gray cut glass seems to suggest after WWII and the bottoms don't show any sign of corrosion. What significance is fire-gilded? I picked up the bowl and sticks separately this summer, just caught my eye because my DH likes brass statues - like deer and ducks, so I keep an eye out. This was something I'd never seen before.

 

sorry, misunderstand "It's 2 brass candlesticks and matching "bowl holder" -"

 

Hello
It does look very French.I would say anything between 1880-1910 .I have seen similar floral patterns with candlesticks.
and it is very beautiful
is it for sale?

 

Fid, how can you tell the difference between fire gilding and electroplating? Color?

I thought they stopped fire gilding by the late 1800's because of mercury poisoning.

 

yes, by the color. but it's a risky guess by photos, isn't it ? and as I personally have seen similar ones - not exactly the same - from the Empire period - I guessed they might have been worth a good gilding.
you can still get fire-gilding done today, but by highly specialized companies with all the necessary kit'n'kaboodle to protect the workforce.
fire-gilding is much harder in the end of the process than electroplating. 3 - 4 layers that really stick together.

 

Thank you. Older French metal gilded pieces do seem to have a deeper, richer, color, even in photographs. I'm surprised that there are companies that still do it. It must cost a fortune if they have equipment that can capture the mercury vapor.

 

certainly costs an arm and a leg. and not much publicity around for it. but I'm sure they progressed in the last 100plus years in neutralizing those fumes.
working conditions were really gruesome in the 19th c.. same with mirror making where certain sorts used quicksilver which was then constantly forbidden except for reparations of national heritage items.