Featured Bisque porcelain and bronze dresser box/casket - spurious? Sevres mark.

About 11" wide at the handles, main body is about 8" wide. 7" wide in the interior. Almost 6" high to top of the lid.

Lid has a putto in a goat drawn carriage, with a couple of other attending, one blowing a horn and the third behind along with a grapevine? Maybe @Brownwen could clue me in if this is a particular scene. I'm sure it must have some symbology that is lost on me The lid clasp is the head of a bearded man. The hinge is starting to separate at the back, only one ring is still attached to the hinge enclosure on the bottom. The inside of the lid is highly reflective brass or bronze. Maybe was meant to act as a mirror. There are 4 small screws on the inside of the lid.

The base has an inscribed double L "Sevres" mark - which I'm going to assume is spurious. I haven't found any other marks yet. Seems "old" to me, perhaps at least actually antique, but I dont' know where to go from there. Maybe 19th century Limoges area? I have no idea - anyone have a better idea?

Tried to get some good pics but I think I might do better in some daylight tomorrow. Here it is:

 

More pics:

 

cute. the side handles make me want to use it as a soup bowl
and i found this:
https://www.ebay.ie/itm/DINI-E-CELL...cks-BOX-JAR-/254066248273?hash=item3b27874a51

 

If you search for Limoges or French bisque jewelry casket, you'll find several with similar design. Yours looks older and better quality than most shown. I can't speak to the Sevres mark.

 

Very nice piece Aaron I not an expert, but the mark looks odd to me, I wonder if this is a Samson piece? I was watching a show on Samson and the pieces they made with various company marks, seems there is a market for these pieces.

 

You could see it as putti playing at the Triumph (procession) of Bacchus/Dionysus or as the Genius of B/D. If the guy who forms the clasp has grape leaves around his head, then Bacchus himself (the Greeks usually depicted Dionysus as youthful). If he's just shaggy, then another member of the revel rout, Silenus.

This:


Instead of this:


Silenus progresses on his poor, put-upon ass:

 

Thanks CX! - I've seen the Samson name pop up here and there while researching Sevres - I'll see if i can find any comparable.

 

Thanks Bronwen! I knew you could shed some light on the scene I'm not detecting any grapevines on the clasp fella - So we'll go with Silenus for him.

 

Thanks Ascot!

 

This is in the same vein:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/372565358939

Sort of:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/352330027638

It looks like Sevres made boxes & Sevres made items in white bisque, but a search for 'Sevres bisque box' turns up only this one. It looks old, that hinge probably contains info on age for someone who knows how to read it. Also looks well made, so...?

 

Agree on all of the above - my hesitation in calling it Sevres comes from reading in about a dozen places online to assume all Sevres marks you might run across are most likely not genuine - until proven otherwise - so don't want to jump to any positive ID.

 

Similar incised double L mark on this Samson bisque piece:

https://www.mayfairgallery.com/ormolu-mounted-bisque-and-blue-porcelain-pedestal-by-samson

 

yes, very true The Sevres mark without the date letter in the centre was in use until 1754, maybe something to have checked out by someone that would know for sure?

 

About which they say:
'The bottom of the pedestal is also marked with the interlaced 'L' for the Sevres manufactory.'


But then, this site:
https://www.figurines-sculpture.com/sevres-marks.html

has this to say about that:

'Look out particularly for the examples of Emile Samson's copies of Sevres, Worcester, Meissen and Chelsea, made in the 1800's.'

Do not see the crossed Ls with a P in the middle identified as a genuine Sevres mark anywhere. So, maybe one of any number of faux Sevres marks used by Samson Edme. Think cxgirl started down the right path.

 

Bronwen, the title and the listing states it is a Samson piece so I don't think they meant to fool anyone
The pedestal was created by the ceramics firm Samson, Edme et Cie, one of the most important French porcelain makers of the 19th Century, renowned for their works in the style of Sevres and Meissen.
Samson was in production from 1845-1969

 

No, I don't think they were trying to be deceptive, but they are being confusing by not explicitly stating that the mark is in the style of Sevres, not for Sevres. Probably if you are the sort of porcelain collector who is seriously considering a purchase in that price range, you know all this stuff. They should give a thought to those who don't.

 

O, putti casket!

Where have you been all my life??

 

lol, maybe they just made a mistake I would hope that by the time a buyer got to that part of the description, (having already read twice that it is by Sampson) they would realize it is a mistake and/or contact the seller to ask about it, especially in that price range