Featured Is this a Max Neiger Necklace?

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  1. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Agree.
     
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  2. Lark

    Lark Well-Known Member

    I am inclined to leave the bead missing and just mention it if you sell. State the fact that it is a tiny bead and in a place not noticeable.
     
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  3. ulilwitch

    ulilwitch Well-Known Member

    What is the printing here? upload_2022-11-4_10-51-31.png
     
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  4. Joan

    Joan Well-Known Member

    The missing bead is next to the spring ring clasp in the second photo.
     
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  5. Dessert58

    Dessert58 Well-Known Member

    Any Jewelry, exactly: you dont want to alert the seller. Also, I have had bad/good/mediocre experiences with all shipment options lately. Cheap or more expensive, they get lost or take forever to arrive either way.
    I always try to pack the items I sell as though they could be thrown with, which is usually what happens with them anyway.
    I didn t learn my lesson and got another Neiger for 1€ a few weeks ago. It was shipped the same way this one was (without any protection, just an envelope) and this one miraculously survived!
    So, I guess you win some, you loose some.
    Still sad this one got broken though.
     
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  6. Joan

    Joan Well-Known Member

    Thank you, ulilwitch, for pointing that out...you might be onto something. I tried to clean it a little and take a better closeup photo, then lightened and increased the contrast. I'm seeing what looks like a little "x" and some other marks, but I'm concerned about cleaning it too much--or should I try to clean off the entire back of the brass piece?
    NeigerCzechDangleNecklace-6.jpg
     
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  7. Joan

    Joan Well-Known Member

    Is there a name for this enamel/painted work?
    NeigerCzechDangleNecklace-4.jpg
     
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  8. Aznathalie

    Aznathalie Well-Known Member

  9. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Hm. It's between champleve and cloisonne to my eye.

    Gentle clean with a Sunshine can't hurt.
     
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  10. Joan

    Joan Well-Known Member

    Thank you for the term "champleve". I've heard of it, but had to look it up and it involves vitreous glass powder being fired to melt the glass...this looks more like a thin layer of paint, but I could be wrong.
     
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  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I would also call it champlevé, because the ridges that separate the colours were cast with the plate, not soldered on.
     
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  12. Wendy Green

    Wendy Green New Member

    I have sold a few Neiger pieces but this looks more like their main competitors Brydcka and Altman. Their pieces were said to be such beautiful works of art. I do not see Neiger traits on this, I do see Brydcka though.
     
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  13. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    That is great information @Wendy Green And welcome to the site! :)

    @Joan posted this a few months ago, I'm sure she'd like this new info.
     
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  14. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    More names I've never seen, but my knowledge of European mainland costume is pitiful.
     
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  15. Joan

    Joan Well-Known Member

    Thank you @Wendy Green for your information about Brydcka & Altman jewelry. I've only found two examples online (maybe the Etsy ones are yours?). I'm in the Upper Midwest USA and have not heard of Brydcka. I'm sorry I didn't reply earlier, but I no longer get notices about my posts. I'm dog sitting for my son & family and couldn't sleep, so started swiping the pages on my cellphone home screen and found a shortcut I'd saved and forgot about for this thread.

    Maybe I can sleep now--like my little "grand-doggie" Wally who's sound asleep beside me. Wally-sleeping.jpg
    He's an 8-year-old rescue dog who's "slightly incontinent" so has to wear a belly band/doggie diaper. My first day here I let him outside to pee and forgot to take it off :oops:. Anyway, back to the necklace--I haven't sold it yet, so will attach a note that it might be Brydcka & Altman. Thank you again for your information.
     
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  16. Joan

    Joan Well-Known Member

    Thank you @Lucille.b -- I'm sorry I didn't get an email notification, but glad I found this post by happenstance.
     
  17. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Lovely piece of champleve-but i'm lovin' Mr. Wallace.As far as seniors and incontinence-tell him to give up beer-works wonders !
     
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  18. Joan

    Joan Well-Known Member

    Thank you @bosko69. I couldn't help laughing about your recommendation for solving Wally's incontinence problem, but he's a teetotaler so he's stuck with belly bands for the rest of his life. He used to wiggle out of them when no one was watching (I felt so sorry for him), but now I think he's used to them like we humans are to our clothes.
     
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  19. Eils14

    Eils14 Well-Known Member

    Hello, no expert here but I'm wondering that if it looks painted on, then perhaps it is and it is therefore cold painted enamel? I have certainly seen a lot of older pieces described as cold painted enamel online when they are an enamel paint effect like you describe; try searching cold painted enamel brooch and you will see what I mean. Just wanted to put it out there as an idea, and so see what others say. :)

    Also this is a stunning piece, very nice find indeed, that would certainly be my find of the day if I had come across it, well done! :shame:
     
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  20. Joan

    Joan Well-Known Member

    Thank you Eils14, I Googled cold painted enamel brooch and found a couple that have a somewhat similar painted look, but not the champleve technique. I'm away from home for several days, but will take a much closer look at the enamel work when I get home and maybe come to a conclusion one way or the other.
     
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