Help with painting identification

Discussion in 'Art' started by Magdonna, Oct 9, 2022.

  1. Magdonna

    Magdonna Active Member

    Hi :happy:
    Does anyone know how to identify this signature and the age 20221009_115242.jpg 20221009_115219.jpg 20221009_115304.jpg 20221009_115327.jpg of this painting?
    Thanks!
     
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  2. sabre123

    sabre123 Well-Known Member

    Others will want to see pics of the back of the art and frame if you can get them.

    Here's a similar painting (source-->)

    signed-oil-painting-english-hunt-scene-fo.jpg
     
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  3. Magdonna

    Magdonna Active Member

  4. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    Hi. From the look of the back, I think this may have been artificially aged. The brown fabric does not appear to be a professional backing and the wood of the stretcher bars very thin and bright clean. Not sure if it was recently rebacked or not?
     
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  5. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    The signature reads "Simen" to my eye. But there's something about your work that makes me suspect its a decorative painting.

    Debora
     
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  6. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    I thought Simen also but now I'm thinking Simon with possibly an initial before and possibly something after the end.

    I thought decorative painting also and do think that frame seems newish but I'm not sure if the craquelure can be recreated like this. Can it? (that is an honest question because I don't know)
     
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  7. Magdonna

    Magdonna Active Member

    It does look old,can it be cracked like this?there is also one place where paint is missing(on the pic)i'm not sure if it was rebacked in the past,or it is just new painting that has been aged 20221009_165507.jpg
     
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  8. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Have you done a Google Image search to see if there's a duplicate floating around?

    Debora
     
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  9. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Yes, craquelure can be artificially produced. Eric Hebborn, in his "Art Forger's Handbook", explains one method. Having chosen materials for the ground and paint layers that would respond as desired, he simply took the unmounted painted canvas and pulled it over the edge of a table in both directions. Voila! automatic age cracks.
     
  10. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I don't know if it's an old painting recently stretched and framed..
    but..
    the hardware is recent....the pine slats are recent......
    and
    Staples......it's got Staples...
     
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  11. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Wow how about that! It sort of makes me want to try it to see what it looks like. I guess you'd need some well dried varnish on the surface.
     
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  12. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    Interesting comments and information! Thank you all. Personally I don’t know what to think of the painting,but I like it. My uneducated guess would have been old painting and canvas that was for some reason ‘newly’ reframed or backed. Happy to be learning. Thanks again
     
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  13. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    Wow,that’s worrying but interesting!
     
  14. techbiker

    techbiker Well-Known Member

    OP, do you own the painting and/or can you inspect it? Either it's relined or just made to look old. The craquelure looks oddly consistent. I also can't see any "old" canvas on the back of the stretchers. Typically, on a relined painting the original canvas will wrap around the backs of the stretchers and over the lining.

    Without seeing the painting in person I'd lean towards "newish".
     
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  15. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Is that a little sticker on the bottom of the frame? And, if so, what does it read?

    Debora
     
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  16. Magdonna

    Magdonna Active Member

    Thank you all for help.i took it to local gallery and they said it isnt much old,probably from 90's
     
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