Featured I Have a Question on This Goblet's Marks- Hoping They Can Be Identified!

Discussion in 'Silver' started by Aquitaine, Sep 7, 2022.

  1. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    It is a goblet my Mom bought back in the Sixties (IF I have the right goblet) and I'd like to verify the marks on it IF POSSIBLE!!! It looks and polishes like Sterling, but kind of 'light yellowish' on the inside only. Mom had her Coat of Arms put on one side, opposite side has the hallmarks, only some scratch marks on the bottom. She was told it was an English Georgian goblet.....and told what 'Hallmark' Page #207, #88.....but no book or anything!! That's what I do know.....I believe @Bakersgma might be the "queen of hallmarks"???? Any help out there, please??? AS ALWAYS, ALL HELP GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!! THANK YOU!!!
    And it looks like silly me, who started this around midnight last night, managed to NOT hit "CREATE THREAD".....So, added to the batch today!!:joyful::rolleyes::smuggrin:

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  2. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Looks like Langlands & Robertson, Newcastle, 1781/82...

    ~Cheryl
     
  3. silvermakersmarks

    silvermakersmarks Well-Known Member

    I agree with Cheryl. John Langlands & John Robertson were in partnership in Newcastle from 1778 to 1795. The date letter here is P which corresponds, as Cheryl says, with the 1781/82 assay year. The decorative engraving seems to be a much later addition as it is much crisper than the original hallmark and also covers part of it.
     
  4. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    You have no idea how long I've wondered about these!!!!! THANK YOU ONE AND ALL!!!!!! "Curiosity killed the cat.....Satisfaction brought him BACK":singing::singing::singing::):):):happy::happy:
     
  5. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    It's been clobbered. The Victorians loved "improving" nice old silver. Gilded interior to protect the silver from wine.
     
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  6. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member


    Aquitaine said her Mom had it done - not a fan of clobbered Georgian silver, but in this case, it would make the piece more dear to me...

    ~Cheryl
     
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  7. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    They half rubbed the marks off for good measure. That's why you couldn't read it.
     
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  8. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member


    Eh, marks wear over the years, these are still readable, the engraved flower over half the crowned leopard-head was an add choice,but the engraving is nicely done.



    From my files - one of the worst clobbered (berried) Georgian spoons I've run across, not only poorly done, but they engraved over a crest:

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    ~Cheryl
     
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  9. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Why on earth would anyone DO that...."Clobber" something....if I'm understanding the term correctly??
     
  10. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    In general, more ornate silver was in fashion, and Georgian silver was just "that old family tat" rather than an an antique valued for its classic design. So they decorated it. (pounds head on desk)
     
  11. Marie Forjan

    Marie Forjan Well-Known Member

    Kind of like people who paint nice old brown furniture today!
     
  12. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Depends on the furniture. But that said, pretty much.
     
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