Please help with a Watson Floral Series

Hi All,
I've looked and looked but can not figure out which one of the Watson Floral/Flower series this spoon is. Does anyone recognize it? Thanks!!!

 

Don't know the series, but this looks like a sunflower to me.

 

I'm with you MOS. Unfortunately my "go to" pattern site has changed hands and the new owner has not installed pattern ID resources.

I tried Replacements but they don't seem to have a copy of this same design and nothing identified as a Sunflower.

 

I don't know these spoons (or spoons in general) or how they are marked, but are these a couple of stamped letters?

 

The mark would be on the reverse of the handle shaft, not on the front. And Watson's mark would not normally include the pattern name in the Floral series. Too may people ask about the flower ID to have the answer be that easy.

 

I'd already looked at all the websites to ID this particular variant and couldn't find it, hence my posting it here.

 

I figured you had, gjg64. I was telling Moreotherstuff about my frustration.

 

This is typically called Floral Series No. 4, Watson called this one "Daisy', and it was the flower they assigned as the July birthflower...

~Cheryl

 

Sue, assume you mean the ill-done changes to Sterling Flatware Fashions - click on the hamburger (triple-bar menu icon) at the top right-hand corner on their home page and the first item is the patterns:

https://sterlingflatwarefashions.com/

~Cheryl

 

Oh my. I thought I had tried everything! Thank you!!

 

It's an aggravating change, difficult to navigate, not very intuitive at all - and apparently she's still planning on doing a 'pay' section as well, have to wonder why it wouldn't be simpler to just monetize the whole site with advertising...

~Cheryl

 

Not very intuitive is an understatement. Ugg.

 

No, those are just part of the design.

Thanks Cheryl. I saw the Daisy you referred to. They are similar. I guess mine is a variant on that one. The engraving is different or maybe they had more than one die.

 

I was on my phone last night, so was a bit limited - to clarify, the reason I said it was 'typically' called Floral Series No. 4 is that doesn't seem to be a designation used by Watson, haven't seen it in a Watson catalog, nor in retailer catalogs or ads - Turner's 'American Silver Flatware 1837-1910 (1972) designated Floral Series 1 through 4 by their basic design elements, and it may have just been his own identification.

Watson produced numerous different floral, fruit, etc. designs, only a few were part of a birthflower series like yours, the designs did vary by the piece produced, and so the dies were cut accordingly - yours is an orange/citrus spoon. You may find this design as No. 10, since both Replacements and Sterling Flatware Fashions show several other 'series' (again, haven't found indication these numbers were ever assigned by the manufacturer), and just for more confusion, sometimes the same motifs show up under different series numbers, and one shows handles with clearly different basic design elements as being part of the same series.


Your spoon is shown here in a 1913 Watson catalog (three other size spoons in the same series shown elsewhere), along with different floral and fruit designs:





Here is the page from Turner showing series 1 through 4:





These two clips show some of the different designs identified as the same series - have no idea of why:






~Cheryl

 

Thanks so much. I guess mine is more of an "engraved" version than a cast one.

 

It's neither engraved nor cast - it was die-struck, just like their other spoons/flatware...

~Cheryl