Featured Military Battle of Napoleon time ?? Not signed

Discussion in 'Art' started by BTZ64, Aug 16, 2022.

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Original drawing or Print ,Period ,Painter,Which famous Battle France,Russia,Prussia?Austria..??

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  1. BTZ64

    BTZ64 JB64000

    20220813_140314.jpg 20220813_140326.jpg 20220813_140336.jpg 20220813_140344.jpg 20220813_140354.jpg 20220813_140406.jpg View attachment 399931 Bonjour to all.....
    Found in Port de Lannes Brocante Vide Grenier.....Last Sunday... At least 1 day out of crazy buzy Btz Beaches....
    Have not yet bought this Painting...Or Print...????? For a descent price ...Bellow Hundred.... But have left a deposite.... For it .....
    If it is a print... I give it back and recuperate my deposite..... But have not to open the back of the frame...???? That is the deal.... If it is a real Painting Drawing by ink... I think Bingo...Thats a good one....
    Thats why I need your usual Expertise and Advices to once again dont make a mistake...
    For me ..It is a real fine Drawing Militaria Battle 1800 something Epoque Napoleon ???
    What is Bizare ...The drawing is not signed???? Why ?? Is it a print??? Hope not...
    Here are Dims :Frame 33x25cm Drawing 23x15cm
    Please would like to have a good news from You....Merci
     
  2. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    I suspect the two main options would be an original, or a lithograph, but I can't tell. Maybe, on close examination, you can look for the irregularities of ink flow.
     
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  3. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    The seller didn't know if it was a painting or print?

    Debora
     
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  4. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    That's quite nicely done.

    Debora
     
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  5. BTZ64

    BTZ64 JB64000

    Thanks ... I will try...But the glass can't be removed yet...I will try to take 1 or 2 closer photos next time....By the way would you have an idea about Period and Painter...??
     
  6. BTZ64

    BTZ64 JB64000

    Hello No Mood... Hope you are in a good one to help me further.... Just got those last detail photos... Not so clear I think as a Macro...But Owner telling that this an Original Ink drawing rehausse.. Period 1800...By a great painter...???? But not signed..... Do you have any idea or good news???? 20220817_110533.jpg 20220817_110545.jpg 20220817_110912.jpg 20220817_110929.jpg 20220817_110949.jpg
     
  7. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    The battle looks Napoleonic to me. My idle guess for the drawing is the 1820s or '30s. I still can't tell from these pictures if it is original or not.

    Why not make it a condition of the sale that if it is not an original drawing you can return it, specifying that you will remove it from the frame to confirm one way or the other. If you decide to return it, you can restore it to near original framing, but the back will end up looking different.

    Certainly looks to be by a trained and competent artist, though "famous" may be a bit of a stretch. You can always hope.
     
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  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    The lady's name is Debora.;)
    No mood means she hasn't chosen a mood in the caption below her avatar picture. Many of us haven't. It is the caption where you have chosen 'cool'.:cool:
     
  9. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    This headgear is so distinctive. Surely someone will be able to identify.

    Debora

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  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Possibly Cossacks. They wore both fur hats, long floppy hats (somewhat like W. Mediterranean and Portuguese fishermen), and a combination of both. They fought with the Russians against Napoleon.
    The others look Napoleonic, as Btz thought.
     
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  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

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  12. mmarco102

    mmarco102 Well-Known Member

    Else, No Mood was a very popular name back when? ;)


    Looks more like a water color painting, if done by hand, more than an ink drawing. But as stated by others possibly a lithograph or other type print. Often pages from a book or other media was framed. A simple magnifying glass, loop and or even a smart phone on zoom can detect most print patterns. That said, got my fingers crossed for you that it’s an original. Just difficult to see in these photos in my opinion.

    This area is unusual to the rest of the ground and possibly could be a signature. Maybe.


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  13. BTZ64

    BTZ64 JB64000

    He is sure it is an original...Not dated ,not signed...??????????????????
     
  14. BTZ64

    BTZ64 JB64000

    Agreed 1000% with you.
     
  15. BTZ64

    BTZ64 JB64000

    You are right... I will try to make this offer after the 5th Sept....If he does agree or not and if it is still on offer...Will come back to you then...
     
  16. BTZ64

    BTZ64 JB64000

    Ok...Cool!!!:cool:;)
     
  17. BTZ64

    BTZ64 JB64000

    Big Thanks.... Will try to make him an offer bargain after holidays...And update you as well...Hopefully there is a good surprise behind this glass....???
     
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  18. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    The headgear did initially look Portuguese to me. Thought perhaps it might depict the Peninsular War because of it. But think Cossack more likely.

    Debora
     
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  19. BTZ64

    BTZ64 JB64000

  20. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Someone has been inside that frame not to terribly long ago. Someone who's handled it recently knows if it's an original or a multiple.

    Debora
     
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