Can someone understand date? Carpet

While washing the carpet, the red root dye flows heavily. But in no way does the color interfere with the patterns. It is very heavy when wet. It is quite difficult to carry.

A hand woven carpet

6 meters

My grandfather bought this carpet for a car 70 years ago.
But I dont know when made it

I couldn't find any date textures or writing on the back.

carpet1 by Oguz Yasin Bas posted Jul 24, 2022 at 11:00 PM

carpet2 by Oguz Yasin Bas posted Jul 24, 2022 at 11:00 PM

carpet3 by Oguz Yasin Bas posted Jul 24, 2022 at 11:00 PM

carpet4 by Oguz Yasin Bas posted Jul 24, 2022 at 11:00 PM

carpet5 by Oguz Yasin Bas posted Jul 24, 2022 at 11:00 PM

 

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I am sorry, I tried upload them, but I couldnt.

 

What was the problem, too large?

 

Yes, too large.

 

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I guess its done

 

NICE job and WELL DONE!!!!!!!!!!!! 70 years might be a LONG time to hope a label or tag would still be on a carpet......maybe if you take REALLY GOOD close-up images of the Front AND Back, along with length and width, and take them to an Oriental Carpet house, they can help you with dating it along with an estimate! Don't forget to give them the history with your information!! Others might be along to help you more specifically than I can!! Best of luck!!

 

70 years ago is only 1952,,,,,
at 6 meters...it's huge.....so likely heavy even when dry..

where did grampa buy it.....usa....Pakistan.....india..?

and yes, once a carpet bleeds.....it affects the pattern

 

Six meters long is a huge carpet. Bought for a car???

All we can see in these pics is the outside edges at a few places. If you want to identify the design, you need to unroll it and take a pic of the overall design. Until then, we only know it is some type of Persian floral design. Probably not older than about 70 years, I would have guessed a bit newer than that. History of design if different than where it was made. Could have been made in Persia but more likely India, Pakistan, etc. Not a good sign that the dyes leach out in cold water; older and high quality carpets should not.

Good question komokwa- where was it bought?

 

I really dont know, but I guess its coming from Turkey. Name is Isparta Carpet.

I found this info:

"Isparta carpet business has an old history. There is an old commercial weaving tradition in Isparta and its surroundings, which has hosted a very important Turkmen population since the 12th century, by weaving famous Turkmen carpets and exporting them to neighboring countries."

 

I see you found it.
From what I gathered most of the carpet makers used to be Greek-Turkish, rather than Turkmen. That floral design isn't very Turkmen, but it is Turkish and Greek. Those roses are the symbol of Isparta, btw.

Here is some more info on Isparta (Sparta) carpets:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpet_weaving_in_Isparta

Six metres, maybe made for a mosque?

From your name I guess that you are Turkish yourself. There are many books in Turkish about Turkish culture, so I guess there are probably Turkish books on Isparta carpets, or Turkish carpets in general. Look for second hand books.

 

Maybe traded a car for the carpet?

 

Thank you for your reply Can we say any estimated value? Or its not valuable

 

I have no idea of the value. Isparta carpets don't seem to be high end, but six metres is special of course. I don't know how that influences any value.
If it is 6x6 metres it could be difficult to find a buyer.

 

Doesn't look overly desirable or valuable, but maybe it's all the rage in Turkey, so value will, as always, depend on where.