Featured 1897 London Print

Discussion in 'Art' started by Norm, Jun 10, 2022.

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Sell it? Keep it?

  1. Sell

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  2. Keep

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  1. Norm

    Norm Member

    Good morning. I wanted to share an old print I have recieved. Its from 1897. The artist has signed the piece Walter Dendy Sadler. The piece is also signed by Arthur James Turrell who is an etching artist. The piece is states to be cataloged by the Library of Congress. The picture seems to be one of a series labeled sweethearts. I have found another similar to this one on the library of Congress website but i can not find this exact one. I would like some feed back on what i should do with the piece being that i had intended to sell it but now wonder if i should have it archived with the others online. I dont know where to start with such a task but it is in an old frame and it needs someone who will enjoy it. I am posting pictures. Feedback on value and where to start for finding its future owner would be great. Thank you and God bless. 20220531_003749.jpg 20220531_004029.jpg 20220531_004010.jpg
     

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  2. Houseful

    Houseful Well-Known Member

    It does need removing from the card mount asap as the acid in the mount board is staining the print.
     
  3. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I agree, it needs an acid-free mount. I would keep the frame, it is beautiful, of the period, and it suits the print, which is very endearing and excellent quality.
     
  4. Matahari

    Matahari Well-Known Member

    The Library of Congress will help you more with these questions

    they were great help trying to identify a photo
    "in the usa" "on a street" "with a funeral procession" and church in the background :)
    that we were trying to id on a french forum!

    we cracked it after 8 pages and 2/3 weeks

    tons of fun
     
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  5. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Well-Known Member

    These two tottering sweethearts have dressed to the nines for a stroll in the park; she brought a basket, sure it would be filled with blooms...holds his arm while she reaches for another one. He, the picture of loving patience, carries the basket already near full of her precious posies, one foot poised to move on as soon as she is ready. I love it!
     
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  6. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    It's lovely, I would have it re-framed acid free and keep it and hang it. :)
     
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  7. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    What is the size of the image?
    What does the fine print under the image say?

    Idle guess is that this is a steel plate engraving (etching) published simultaneously in both the U.S. and Britain.

    A decorator piece of it's time on the cusp of the change from etching and engravings to photo-repro techniques.

    If you replace the mat as others have recommended, you will see if there is a plate impression or not. It is likely rotogravure, a mass market printing process that would not necessarily show a plate mark.

    Not a lot of value, but the pencil signatures may help.

    Here's a Worthpoint entry for a different print from the same two: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/walter-dendy-sadler-arthur-turrell-1790891519

    If the size is comparable, the value may be as well.
     
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  8. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Possibly it is titled "Constancy" -- there is a listing in an 1897 publication called The Year's Art that I found in Google Books:
    https://books.google.com/books?id=ZmMoAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA2-PA284&lpg=RA2-PA284&dq=sadler+turrell+"1897"+print&source=bl&ots=-FOs2hXBTS&sig=ACfU3U1PnfnNvAgLiwo_b4RN4OsWt8nGRw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjewr_dlqP4AhVEmo4IHZTBCiQQ6AF6BAhIEAM#v=onepage&q=sadler turrell "1897" print&f=false

    The page was scanned sideways and you may need to scroll down to see the page. It is probably better viewed on a computer screen instead of a phone screen.

    I'm not positive this is the same one, but the artist, engraver, and year all match. And it appears that the title would be appropriate to this image.
     
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  9. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    Agreed, thanks, MOS :)
     
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  10. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

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  11. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    It would be described as a genre scene. And, if you look carefully... You will see that they're not dressed in clothing from the late Victorian era; they're wearing clothing from the early Victorian era when they were young -- and one can assume -- more affluent. Perhaps the message is that they're old now but still respectable and although poor, enjoy the important things in life: a lovely day, the beauty of nature and each other's companionship.

    Debora
     
  12. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

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  13. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    @Norm ..
    a print u received ...
    everyone here seems to like it...

    I think u should sell it....... ;):playful::playful:
     
  14. i have one entitled VILLAGE GOSSIPS by W. Dendy Sadler and James Dobie ca 1900's probably painted in late 1800's. IT has been cleaned and remated in acid free paper 4/18/1999 by S.J.MYLES CORP GOLDEN NUGET ANTIQUE MARKET LAMBERTVILLE, NJ 609-397-3877 732-536-9581. Frame and glass are original EAST LAKE $1500 PRINT IS EXCELLENT $975-1200. in his shop would sell at $1750 wholesale complete at auction at least $2500.00 4/1999. he also did another print for me also maybe in 2001 or 2002.
     
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  15. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Those numbers certainly surprise me.
     
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  16. why do they surprise you. this is what i was told. prices are no doubt different now.
     
  17. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Is yours a print along the lines of that about which the original poster is asking? Is it pencil signed by artist and etcher? How large is the image? What size is the edition? Was it hand printed or mechanically produced?

    I would not think such prints could command those prices. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
     
  18. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

  19. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I would be very surprised that a late Victorian sentimental print by this artist would sell for those prices and would be very interested to see some actual sales (not asking) prices.

    Debora
     
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  20. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Prices have changed a lot since the economic downturn of 2008. I don't completely understand the post, but I think it may be referring to older sales?

    Since I don't completely understand the post and haven't seen a photo of the item, I have no real opinion about it.
     
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