Featured German Silver Kiddush Cup dated 1837

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  1. laura9797

    laura9797 Well-Known Member

    I am cataloguing a nice silver kiddush cup dated December 25 1837. Around the foot inscribed in German loosely translated 'In Memory of' and on the base of the foot, a bunch of names. Does anyone recognize the hallmark or name in the oval that starts with SCH? Thank you for looking! kiddush.jpg kiddush4.jpg kiddush3.jpg kiddush2.jpg kiddush1.jpg
     
  2. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Well-Known Member

    That is Magnificent...

    Think of what it could say, what it has seen...

    It belongs in a Museum...polished!

    Thanks...
     
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  3. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    To clarify... The cup carries the date 1837. It is not dated 1837.

    Debora
     
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  4. laura9797

    laura9797 Well-Known Member

    True
     
  5. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Odd that a Kiddush cup carries the date of Christmas. Can you transcribe the engraved words for us? It's not possible to read them from the photographs.

    Debora
     
  6. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Stade, officially the Hanseatic City of Stade is a city in Lower Saxony in northern Germany. First mentioned in records in 934, it is the seat of the district which bears its name. It is located roughly 45 km to the west of Hamburg and belongs to that city's wider metropolitan region

    I have kiddush cups......they all have their owners names...
     
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  7. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Yes, I see "Stade." I also see "Gleichen" to its lower left.

    Debora
     
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  8. laura9797

    laura9797 Well-Known Member

    engraved around the foot "fur erinnerung an" translating to 'for memory of' and then many names including Kirchhoff, Muller, Grause, Dommes, Newburg. Heavy script - some is difficult to decipher.
     
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  9. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    With all those names, it makes you wonder. If that thing could talk, it would tell a few tales. It probably left Germany when the family emigrated, thankfully well ahead of WWII. A lot of Jewish silver was confiscated and melted leading up to the War.
     
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  10. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I see what appears to be "Peterkin v." What comes after that?

    Debora
     
  11. laura9797

    laura9797 Well-Known Member

    not seeing Peterkin V, there are about 8 or 9 names. I'll try to post better pictures when I get them back from photography.
     
  12. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Here. May be reading it incorrectly.

    Debora

    kiddush.jpeg
     
  13. laura9797

    laura9797 Well-Known Member

    I believe that is Blohm.
    Here is what I another silver group said "The mark on the right is a key in an oval (Stade guild).
    The cup does not meet the definition of Kiddush cup; there is nothing to indicate Jewish provenance.
    More likely Christmas gift.
    The maker was recorded by Clasen: Stader Silber"
     
  14. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    The cup does not meet the definition of Kiddush cup; there is nothing to indicate Jewish provenance.

    I think we've talked about that here....as to what is and what is not....
     
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