Converted oil lamp ID help. Are these makers marks? Dog Breed?

Maybe I'm just seeing things that aren't there but some of these things I posted below look like they may be marks. I tried finding lamps that looked similar but that didn't help. The lamp is 17" tall to the base of the light bulb socket and 8 1/2" wide. It looks like it had a gold finish on the metal base but there are only hints of visible gold left. Also would appreciate help with the dog breed. Thank you!
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Possible marks

Stamped D?


To me, it looks like something was in front of the #5. C S or C & ??



The other feet are smooth, this looked like it might be a stamp, or not.


Along the edge of the base. All the other areas are smooth.


Possibly an A and something else?

 

The dog might be a St. Bernard... the older look, not the way they look now. I'm not sure, though.

 

At a quick glance, I also thought it was a St. Bernard. I've been looking at Google images and these two dogs have a similar look, a Brittany and an English Springer Spaniel.

 

Springer Spaniel for sure, Brittany Spaniels have docked tails.

 

It's an English Springer Spaniel, and not well drawn, as the head is more reminiscent of the St. Bernard. And not a Brittany, even if the owner opted out of the de-tail. Brittanys are slenderer and more elegantly formed than the English. (No disrespect to the delightful James and his progeny!)

sp...Brittanies?

 

I was torn about whether it would be a spaniel or a St. Bernard. The first would require the head and shoulders to be all wrong, and the second would require the body to be all wrong. I selected the body being wrong. ... Yes, it could be either.

On second look, I do see pictures of the Springer where the head looks similar... I think the shoulders and "ruff" of the one on the lamp are problematic.

 

By the way, I just found this cool site of antique dog photographs!

http://www.antiquedogphotographs.co.uk/

 

Figtree, what wonderful photos. I adore Winifred with her dog (especially the second one where she is on the floor with the dog leaning on his back).

Those certainly are lovely little shoes on Winifred in her first photo in the series.

 

Yourturn, I didn't see Winifred yet. I was looking at the spaniel photos, but not thoroughly. I will go back and look at the site some more.

 

The Oil Lamp has been Electrified and the Price of it greatly lowered. Nice dog.

 

Thanks everyone. Great link for the antique dog photos.

Fenton, do you know the maker of the lamp?

 

Could be a Newfie - Newfoundland, like Nana from Peter Pan.

 

I had thought of that, too, as a possibility.

 

No I don't know who made it. A lot of Company's Made them.

 

Thank you Fenton.

When I was a kid, my next door neighbor had a Newfoundland but he was all black so that didn't even cross my mind. I was knocked down more times than I count when he would jump on me. He was twice my size. lol.

 

The Newfoundlands that are colored like the dog on the lamp are called Landseers... named after the famous dog artist Edwin Henry Landseer. In some countries, including the U.S. and Great Britain, the Landseer is considered to be the same breed as the Newfoundland. In other countries they are considered to be a different breed.

https://www.google.com/search?q=new...=PnT0VJD_LNewyATQuICADw&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

 

Thank you, Fig, I did wonder about that because most of what we see these days are the black ones, but I knew that Nana was supposed to be a Newfie.

 

You're welcome. One of my sisters has owned two Newfies through the years, and she has told me some of this information. Also I looked some up, because I think they are the sweetest dogs ever!

 

Lucky sister, for they are, indeed, the sweetest things.

 

This vase parlor lamp would have had a matching ball shade. It still has the ball shade ring. It appears to have the remnants of a central draft burner that has been gutted/reamed out to allow a light socket to fit into the central air intake tube. The middle/center of a central draft font has an an air vent running down through it. A pipe is now down that air intake and attached to the bottom of the font with a disk. This allows the electric cord from the bottom of the light socket to run down through the font and out the bottom. I suspect this lamp is no older than the 1890s and into the early 1900s. Yours may be hand painted. Look the base over carefully for an artist name/sig.

Here are examples:
http://www.oillampantiques.com/our-current-range/parlour-lamps/parlor-oil-lamp/

This one is marriage of the base and ball shade:
http://www.oillampantiques.com/our-current-range/parlour-lamps/hand-painted-vase-lamp-marriage/

http://www.victoriangardensantiques...rified-oil-lamp-with-original-ball-shade.html

At the bottom of this page is a central draft burner with a little explanation of it:
http://www.thelampworks.com/lw_info_burner_id.htm

As another has already said because it has been converted does reduce its value, but the absence of the original shade devaluates it even more.

As to the dog, I'm not sure. Springer Spaniels were a popular subject back in "them thar days", but as others have pointed out it looks how St. Bernards were pictured back then also. I have no idea who the maker was. None of those markings on the bottom look like those of such lamp manufacturers Bradley & Hubbard, Ives, Miller, etc... Those markings may just be inventory numbers and letters used by a foundry that supplied lamp manufactures with iron bases. The wick lifter lever has been removed from the font. Sometimes those levers had patent numbers on them. At the moment I don't recognize the font fill cap design either. Sometimes the design on fill caps would be the same as designs found the lamp manufacturers of thumbwheels/ wick winders. As central draft burners didn't have thumbwheels, they had wick lifters, the design was sometimes found on the fill caps. You might look through the following pages of thumbwheel designs for one that looks like on your fill cap.

http://www.oldcopper.org/LampMaka-r.htm
http://www.oldcopper.org/LampMakas-z.htm
http://www.oldcopper.org/european manufacturers.htm
http://www.oldcopper.org/oil_lamp_makers.htm#References

--- Susan