Featured Finely woven baskets. Look Native American?

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  1. Jenzy

    Jenzy Member

    898F678F-56CB-4F79-9F47-EA3B5DECAB5E.jpeg C5ADDD3D-D493-4854-B99F-851A09B2FFA2.jpeg 57F67BF5-DC14-4720-B3DB-20C770145A47.jpeg 325875DE-86F2-4BA6-AD30-143A604C924D.jpeg 04F35A0F-6977-4975-8223-A67C615F61E4.jpeg 08763249-A896-4852-8EAE-8ABE587C83D1.jpeg D7F9EEA8-6371-4076-ACB2-E8B4B43575B4.jpeg 8A937FD0-073F-4AA0-96DE-EA3DC6AB847F.jpeg 029DC7D4-7031-4268-91EF-B313E4086246.jpeg 96F6D3CE-970C-470E-8D5D-2BB061507935.jpeg Hello, I found these, and quite a few more, baskets- sort of in the same style, at a yard sale. I don’t know what tribe, if they’re even Native American, or what beyond baskets they are used for. If anyone has any idea, I’d appreciate hearing about what they are. Also, the 2 larger baskets are like nothing I’ve seen woven before, extremely tight, yet pliable, beautiful as all get out, really, and I was thinking perhaps they require to be stored and displayed with special care? If you know about these things, I would like to keep them in good shape.
     
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  2. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

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  3. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    The first two look to be Hupa baskets, from Northern California, and are authentic Native American baskets and are valuable. The first one with the beautiful colors is likely a hat. They should be handled / displayed carefully. If you have more of them, you found a real treasure trove!
     
  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    a yard sale.......where....I wanna go too !!!:hungry::hungry::hungry::hungry::hungry::wideyed::wideyed::woot::woot:

    1, Yes @Potteryplease , indeed a hat...Hupa, Yurok , Karuk....one of those...
    worth good money as it looks mint !!

    2, Hupa Mush Bowl .....yup, actually made as a food container .
    worth les than the hat.....but still nothing to sneeze at !!!

    both are antiques......and are easily searched on the net for current values and dealers.

    3. not a clue....but not related to the ones above ...
     
  5. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Is there an emoji for envy?

    I agree with the identifications already provided, and also don't have any ideas for the last one.

    Keep them protected from dust, out of direct sunlight or bright artificial lights, and away from radiators or other sources of heat.
     
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  6. Jenzy

    Jenzy Member

    Thank you all very much. The hat (with the design- you wouldn’t happen to know what the design portrays would you? Or is it a geometrical pattern only?) is one of the most beautiful woven pieces I’ve ever seen. I’ll take photos of the rest of the haul to post for you to see. I don’t know if they’re Native American, but we’ll see! Thanks again
     
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  7. Jenzy

    Jenzy Member

    Thank you, everyone has been so helpful. I appreciate you all.
     
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  8. Teddy

    Teddy New Member

    The first two should never be displayed open side up. Those are ceremonial caps, and should be treated with the respect of what they are used for, even to this day they are used. It's awfully sad to see that they aren't with their rightful owners, or even owned by the Tribes. Yurok, Hupa, or Karuk. They need to be used in ceremonies still. I know families that are still in search or what was sold and taken from them.
     
  9. Teddy

    Teddy New Member

    I just noticed it was the same Ceremonial Cap in the first 3 pictures.
     
  10. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    @Jenzy was asking for helpful information to respect the history of her items ....
    not a scolding..:meh:
     
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  11. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Welcome to this forum, @Teddy.

    Items such as this basketry cap left their original owners in a variety of ways - some ways more unfortunate than others. It is often impossible to trace their history. Many have entered museum collections, and since the 1990 passage of NAGPRA (the Native American Grave Protection and Repatriation Act), museums have been required to identify objects of ceremonial significance and, under particular conditions, return them to tribes that can properly claim them. This has been an effort to redress some of the dispossession that occurred in the past.

    Other objects have entered the private market, and may end up in the hands of people who recognize and appreciate their beauty, but may not know their origin or understand their significance. That seems to be the case here.

    None of us can turn back the clock. The best we can do is try to learn from each other. Presenting a Native point of view here is very important. If done with care, you might inspire some private acts of repatriation.
     
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  12. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

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  13. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I concur.

    Having bought and sold several hats and mush bowls , I always treated them as special items with a rich cultural history.

    & we all here know my love of 1st Nation basket work ....;)
     
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