Ivory?

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  1. Noahelge

    Noahelge New Member

    Screen Shot 2022-04-10 at 1.13.34 PM.png Screen Shot 2022-04-10 at 1.13.55 PM.png Screen Shot 2022-04-10 at 1.14.08 PM.png Screen Shot 2022-04-10 at 1.14.34 PM.png Is this an ivory piece?
    It seems to have the signature of the artist (carved).
    Thank you for your assistance.
     
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  2. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    I see no evidence of grain, so...I'm thinking no.
     
  3. Sdcookie2

    Sdcookie2 Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    It is likely resin. I believe I have seen this form many times. The way you can determine is with a hot pin test. In an indiscriminate place, heat a needle tip with a lighter until glowing red and push into the object. If it is ivory it will not melt, if it is resin it will.
    Happy day, Steve
     
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  4. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Welcome, @Noahelge.

    I agree that your figure is probably resin (synthetic plastic).

    Please do not use the "hot pin" test. Some vintage plastics are extremely flammable, and you may find yourself in a dangerous situation. There are better ways to identify ivory. You can find links to some references on ivory here:

    https://www.antiquers.com/threads/ivory-references.69023/
     
  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    the only thing to use a hot pin on....is a boil !
     
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  6. Sdcookie2

    Sdcookie2 Well-Known Member

    Used this method for 30 years never had a problem.
     
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  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    c'mon.....that doesn't mean it's the proper way to test for ivory..!

    it only means you've been lucky not getting hurt....:playful:
     
  8. Rayo56

    Rayo56 Well-Known Member

    DISCLAIMER: PLEASE hold HOT pin with pliers, NOT your fingers! :facepalm:
     
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  9. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    We have had this discussion many times before. If there is a non-destructive way to identify a material, that should be the first option.
     
  10. Sdcookie2

    Sdcookie2 Well-Known Member

    No it means use it carefully. In my life I've never seen or heard of spontaneous combustion by using the pin method.
     
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  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    as u wish......
     
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  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I know from experience (non-antique or vintage!) that plastics can burn. Maybe not spontaneous, but heat-induced like from a hot pin, yes. Celluloid, for instance, burns like a bushfire in an Australian summer. Many older ivory lookalikes were made from celluloid.

    When it comes to antique or vintage items, knowledge is so much more important than damage.
    The first question is, does a piece have any of the characteristics of ivory or bone? Knowledge tells you this one doesn't.
    The second is, has this style ever been made in ivory or bone? Knowledge tells you it hasn't. It is a mid-century Italian style Orientalist resin figurine. These are always resin.

    Not everyone has experience and no one knows everything. That is why @Noahelge made the right decision to ask here.

    As for fellow members, a word of advice:
    If you don't recognize an item, whether it be the material or the style, it is good to wait for a member who does before advising damage. We have so many knowledgeable members. And after all, damage is never good, and it will lower the value.
    Most collectors have loups, and damage in an inconspicuous place will be found by a collector. And yes, there are collectors of these Orientalist resin pieces.:)
     
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  13. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Hot pins are the work of Satan.
     
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