Zuni bird id - not an owl

Discussion in 'Tribal Art' started by Jeff Drum, Apr 6, 2022.

  1. Jeff Drum

    Jeff Drum Well-Known Member

    This generally looks like the birds done by Nelli Bica, but as far as I can tell she did only owls. And this does not look like an owl (different eyes and beak). Can anyone ID the type of bird, or know of similar Zuni birds of whatever species this is? Or perhaps know the history of Zuni pottery birds - assuming decorative only? This one seems to have enough age to be mid-century or earlier.
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  2. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    partridge? (or grouse - not sure of the difference)
     
    Last edited: Apr 6, 2022
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  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    they taste different !!:hungry:
     
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  4. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    I agree it looks old, but is there anything clearly indicates that it's Zuni pottery? Might it be Mexican? It looks more like a parrot beak. On pieces with three 'legs' to stand on, one is usually the tail feathers. Yours seems to have three legs.
     
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  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    maybe it's a boy bird....;):rolleyes:
     
  6. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    I was careful not to indirectly hint at that...
     
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  7. Jeff Drum

    Jeff Drum Well-Known Member

    Anything is possible, but I see no history of Mexican pottery like this. And this looks to have some authentic age, so not a recent Mexican production fake (if they are even faking Zuni pottery; I don't know).

    Below are some pics of Zuni owls from Cowans auction. They also have some other birds, turkey, chicken and rooster but they look less like the one I showed at the top than the owls do.

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  8. Jeff Drum

    Jeff Drum Well-Known Member

    I looked for birds that overlapped the Zuni reservation area, and found two that might be possible. A prairie falcon, and a greater roadrunner. Maybe?

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  9. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    There's owls and turkeys and other such birds from Acoma too, and the color scheme on yours is close to those ones too.
     
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  10. Jeff Drum

    Jeff Drum Well-Known Member

    That’s a good thought. I hadn’t noticed Acoma birds, but some are similar to this. Located not very far to the east, also in New Mexico. Colors may be whiter in the Acoma work, but I think it would take someone familiar with both tribal potteries to distinguish. Thanks!
     
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  11. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    And I meant to add that if yours is a parrot, parrots are a very common motif painted on Acoma pottery.
     
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