Featured Wood Block Print (?) - Hand Painted - With Note

Discussion in 'Art' started by KikoBlueEyes, Apr 1, 2022.

  1. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    I was enchanted by this very small print of a seated horseman that has a handwritten note on the back. My goal is to learn about the characteristics of various types of prints. To my untrained eye, it appears to be hand painted or perhaps, the separate colors come from the printing process? I could be completely wrong about all of this. The print is 3 x 5 inches.
    There is a charming note on about Mr. Nakamura on the back of this modern plastic frame. Does anyone have thoughts they would like to share. Any comments would be appreciated. I will use them to learn.

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  2. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Given the grid-like pattern of dots in the one photo, it seems most likely that this is an offset lithograph. Does the same patterning occur throughout the print (and simply not showing up in the other photos)?
     
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  3. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Any idea who Mr Nakamura is Kiko?
     
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  4. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    No got this at a resale shop. Unfortunate, the family lost this memento of its history. But the name gives me a lead as to the country it is supposed to represent.
     
  5. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Yes. Harder to photograph. Thank you

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  6. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Could be that Mr. Nakamura shared the same ethnicity, but this being a direct ancestor is most likely apocryphal.

    A tongue-in-cheek note by someone who came across the picture while writing an essay?
     
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  7. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    You got me. It's a post it note, so not from the tradition of identifying people and places and history on the back of photos, paintings, etc. that we see on antique items.
     
  8. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

  9. Roaring20s

    Roaring20s Well-Known Member

    To me, the rider looks to be Mongolian.
     
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  10. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    The reproduction process that has the various patterns of dots is known as "halftone". Offset lithography does not use a screen, and shows a smooth appearance.

    An excellent reference for identifying print techniques, with lots of discussion of history, and closeup images, is:
    Bamber Gascoigne: How to Identify Prints. 2nd ed. Thames & Hudson, 2004. ISBN 9780500284803

    The horse definitely looks Mongolian:
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    The notes about Mr. Nakamura's (a Japanese name) ancestry may be a joke referring to recent studies that have shown that Genghis Khan left a definite mark on human DNA, with about 16 million living descendants.
    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...neticists,16 million descendants living today.
     
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  11. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

  12. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    That's what I thought at first when I saw it in the window. But Mr. Nakamura didn't fit.
     
  13. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Thank you so much for the reference in determining printing techniques. I get lost in the various resources on the web.
    Genghis Khan was quite the progenitor it seems. You may be right that this was a joke for a family member and easily discarded to a thrift. I was looking at early Japanese peasants on horseback, and I did not see this type of fuller figured horse. I thought Mongolian at first, but was thrown by the Japanese reference. Thanks for clarifying.
     
  14. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Well... a little bit mea culpa.

    From the Graphics Atlas:
    "While text and line work can be transferred as is to the printing plate, if the piece to be printed includes a photograph or other full-toned image it must first be broken up into halftones."


    http://www.graphicsatlas.org/identification/?process_id=46

    But I have to agree - saying halftone would have been better. We don't know how the image was actually printed and halftone is not, of necessity, offset lithography.
     
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  15. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    No, no. Let me apologize. Reviewing both Bamber and your link, (rather than speaking off the cuff and somewhat groggy this morning), I see that screens may be used in offset lithography. But halftone would be a more inclusive term. :) Just emphasizes the fact that identifying printing techniques is complicated.

    @KikoBlueEyes, the basic lesson you can take is that if you see those mechanical patterns it is a reproduction of some sort, and not an original work of art. (I think I am safe in saying that.)
     
  16. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    not written in stone....but the 5 dollar frame is enuf to give one pause , about the art placed there....

    just saying
     
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  17. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Very nice link. Thank you. Obviously, printing is very nuanced, and it takes a knowledgeable person like you to discern these attributes.
     
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  18. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Frankly, I was hoping for an original work of art, but this discussion is very illuminating. I didn't see the typical, modern dot matrix. Now I have other ways of detecting prints and I am very grateful for the education.
     
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  19. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Komo. Even Cinderella had regular shoes. :)
     
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