A couple of antique chinese necklaces and a possible antique japanese button

Can anyone help me identify these pieces I own?
The one with purple link chains I am almost certain is amethyst, probably early 20th century?

The green necklace I bought the past weekend. Was helping it was Jade but I doubt it now (there's something akin to a scratch on it that can be seen in one of the pictures on the fan pendant).
It seems like an early 20th century piece? Can't find anything of the sort online, not with the beading and minimalist carved pendant. There seems to be a tiny green beed as stopper on the end.

The circular object looks to be a button, I thought it might be be Netsuke originally but it seems too flat and I can't dissasemble it as you be able to with a similarly shaped Netsuke. It is very pretty.

 

Is the "jade" pendant dirty or is there a lot of air bubbles in it? Jade can be scratched fairly easy.

 

Hi there. No bubbles that I can see, which I would equate to it being glass if there where. The scratches I mention may be scuffs or something of the type, they can be identified as tiny light yellow marks in the closup picture, as if maybe a surface graze caused a change in colour. Kind of strange. I'm not sure though.

Ultimately I may be wrong and this material is indeed glass? Just doesn't seem vitrious.

 

Is the "amethyst" chain cooler to the touch? Quartz feels cooler than man made materials. I really can't fathom though how a quartz crystal like amethyst could be cut successfully in this fashion. But I am no jewelry expert, so just my thoughts.

 

Photographing the link necklace on a white background would be really helpful

 

It is cool to the touch, very light. I based my assesment that it was amethyst on something similar I think I came across but I would have to make sure because I don't quite remember now. It may have been other material. Ir I come across it I will share the link

Thank you for the tip! Will upload appropriate image later today

 

Looking forward to seeing it.

 

I see seams in each link of the purple pieces and no natural color variations that come with stone. Generally, stone would be described as heavy not light. I will leave it to others more knowledgeable than I to make the final determination, but I don't think it is amethyst.

 

I see what you mean. It could be glass but I doubt it

I will look at the piece more thoroughly but what appear to be seams may just be some type of visual distortion.

Edit: no seams present that I can find. Do you know the style of chinese jewelry I am alluding to? What you see as seams are visual occurences created by the transparent and reflective nature of the material

Also gem quality amethyst does not have colour variations it is my understanding. And relative to the levity of the piece it is taking into consideration the size of the links, as well as the fact that amethyst is not a stone per say

Could be lavender jadeite?

 

Gem quality amethyst does have color variations and is a semi precious gemstone. The chain does not appear to be any type of jade.

 

Thanks for the information. Always interesting to delve what would you say it is made of? And any idea what the other piece might be made of, rough date?

Not arguing for the sake of my item but here it is stated that finest quality amethyst has no zoning

https://www.gia.edu/amethyst-quality-factor

It used to be an outright precious stone until large deposits where found in Brazil

this is the type of piece I was thinking is part of the same 'tradition'? Maybe I'm way off. I know it's a not traditional qing dynasty necklace
https://www.rubylane.com/item/784248-1351/Antique-Chinese-Qing-Dynasty-Carved-Nephrite

 

Maybe you are referring to this style of jade carving known as "devil's work".
If your necklace is really carved amethyst, I don't think it would have common glass seed beads as part of the final design, but rather would have fine gold spacer beads and clasp.
It is pretty though!!

 

Gem quality amethyst does have color variations,but they don't have color zoning.

 

Fascinating. What a beautiful piece and what a great name for the type of piece

 

A little update. So I was able to look at these under a very good magnifying glass and now believe both are made of glass, the green one definetly has a few bubbles present.
Not disappointed at all, maybe will be easier to identify now

Edit: boom
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-...7-c245-4f33-b323-a40b40f72817&redirect=mobile

 

Just for the sake of discussion: Carving a linked chain from any hard mineral would be very labor-intensive and therefore, very expensive. Would a carved stone chain be attached with a cord to make a necklace? Sometimes we get caught up looking only at the leaves and not the whole tree to identify. Very easy to do.

 

My thoughts exactly.
Fine gems are usually set into fine gold.
A quick look at metals and craftsmanship is usually a good indicator when the stone is in question.