19th Century Fort Painting ID Help?

Discussion in 'Art' started by techbiker, Feb 27, 2022.

  1. techbiker

    techbiker Well-Known Member

    I just bought an interesting 20"x24" supposedly-19th century oil painting on canvas of a river, bridge, soldiers, and what appears to be a fort on a distant mountain. No signature as far as I could see but given the size, probable age, and fascinating content, I couldn't resist. If this is actually from the 1880s and depicts a fort in the western US, I can't imagine there are too many possible painters.

    There is also a remanent of a gallery tag on the back that states "..NENTSKY & WES.. ..ET. PHIL...."

    Do you have any thoughts on the location depicted or artist? According to the seller the painting is likely of American origin.

    Thank you!

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  2. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    JMHO.
    subject doesn't look US. two customs officers and a tollgate on a bridge ?
     
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  3. techbiker

    techbiker Well-Known Member

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  4. Lithographer

    Lithographer Well-Known Member

    Seems more like first half of the 20th century. I would think a hobbyist painter. European for sure. I see these types of paintings all the time in antique stores. Ok for decoration but not for investment.
     
  5. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    As others have said, unlikely to be an American scene. Few masonry bridges like that in early rural America. And the pollarded tree in the foreground is a European practice.
     
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  6. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    What the others said...... also, that brownish linen type canvas is typically European.
     
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  7. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Something written and partial label. Can you enlarge this part? FCAC7909-2091-4EEA-B42F-BC7AB1B9B0CF.jpeg
     
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  8. techbiker

    techbiker Well-Known Member

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    Please see this better close-up of the tag, writing, and a profile of the stretcher grain. I wouldn't be surprised if the tag used to include the word "Philadelphia". The wood appears to be old growth, perhaps Douglas Fir. My house is built with Douglas Fir studs and shiplap from around 1910 and the grain structure, hardness, and color appear similar. Do you know if Douglas Fir was used in Europe for stretchers?

    I didn't conclude "Europe" from the stone bridge previously because there were similar ones built between the 1870s and 1890s in my city in N Texas. I believe some still exist in cities like Eureka Springs, AR. Stone masonry was hugely popular in some parts of the central US after the Civil War.

    Might not be worth the canvas it's painted on, however I still find the scene interesting. Thanks again for all of the help!
     
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