Mortar and Pestle with Latin and figures

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  1. Littlekrickett

    Littlekrickett New Member

    06DD82B8-0FD3-4712-8C48-ECB2EEDEE104.jpeg 06DD82B8-0FD3-4712-8C48-ECB2EEDEE104.jpeg 432EADAB-798F-4EAB-ADAD-57C6882A3CC7.jpeg 06DD82B8-0FD3-4712-8C48-ECB2EEDEE104.jpeg 432EADAB-798F-4EAB-ADAD-57C6882A3CC7.jpeg Hi all I just acquired this unique mortar and pestle.. it has writing all over (in Latin I think) and the date MCCCCCXXII (but unsure if this is the date it was made or an event that occurred that someone wanted to memorialize in the piece as I can’t read it. Each piece both mortar and pestle have join seams. I’ll going to try and upload pictures. Could someone help me with Origins and a Date (unless 1522 seems right) ..It is extremely heavy and has a sound like a bell when the two pieces bang together.
     

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  2. Roaring20s

    Roaring20s Well-Known Member

    1873 = MDCCCLXXIII
    There is a San Filippu on Malta
    Google changes "Mee Fecito" into "Me Fecit" (Latin) = "He Made Me"

    Do this for the rest of it and you may start to solve the riddle.
     
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  3. Littlekrickett

    Littlekrickett New Member

    I saw MCCCCCXXII… no D…or L
     
  4. Roaring20s

    Roaring20s Well-Known Member

    Sorry, google made a substitution. I do not know.
     
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  5. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    A proper Latin date would not have 5 C's together.
     
  6. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    None of the writing seems to make sense in any language...
    And the Roman numerals for 1522 are MDXXII.
    Could it be some sort of "ancient-style" souvenir piece?
    How about a photo of the bottom?
     
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  7. Littlekrickett

    Littlekrickett New Member

    Here is the bottom. There really isn’t anything there.. just some scratches. My husband And I are starting to think the language is an old form of Sicilian. We are finding a few of the words in language study texts. (This item was purchased in Sicily)
     

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  8. Littlekrickett

    Littlekrickett New Member

    I know that’s why I am stumped. It seems very old but doesn’t make much sense. I also had the thought of an old souvenir piece but why wrote nonsense into an obviously large heavy piece of brass.
     
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  9. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    It might be helpful if you could transcribe the text for us, as you see it, so we don't have to try to piece them together from the photos.
     
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  10. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    And while you're at it - where is the pestle?
     
  11. Jeff Drum

    Jeff Drum Well-Known Member

    It’s a reproduction, and never used. If you translate you may find what museum or church the original is in.
     
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  12. Littlekrickett

    Littlekrickett New Member

    There is a photo of the pestle in the original post you have to click on the photo group.
     
  13. Littlekrickett

    Littlekrickett New Member

    Fist line: San Filippv Mee Fecit MCCCCCXXII. Mathev
    Second line: TVCTV MESTRVIV PER (symbol with a circle and a star) TVASALVTI SINOCHI GRIDARI
    Third line (in between the figures) SER RA(circle with star inside) (three dots in a column) LIA VRI THI MEV (With figures between each three letter word.
     
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  14. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    No picture of a "group" in the first picture in this thread. Is it somewhere else?
     
  15. Littlekrickett

    Littlekrickett New Member

    I could get behind reproduction of an ancient mortar and pestle but I think if it is.. probably an old repro. It has been used quite a bit… the inside and pestle are well worn.
     
  16. Littlekrickett

    Littlekrickett New Member

    Hmm For me it is in the uploaded files… here it is again. :) Thanks for helping
     

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  17. Littlekrickett

    Littlekrickett New Member

     
  18. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

  19. Littlekrickett

    Littlekrickett New Member

    Thanks! I was attaching it.. but it wasn’t making it big. :)
     
  20. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Okay. Got it now.
     
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