Featured Two Crystal Vases - One with Unknown Mark

I would appreciate any thoughts about these two crystal vases. I know they are crystal - the sunlight through my windows created prisms madly all day today on my walls. They are both 11 inches tall and very heavy. The unmarked one is 5 inches in diameter at the shoulders, and the marked on is 5 1/2 in diameter at its widest point. They both appear to be machine cut - I don't see any mold marks.

The marked one looks like it is also machine etched. The mark appears to be a crown and initials shaped into a martini glass - I darkened it, so you could see it better. I couldn't find it anywhere, but perhaps it is European.

I like the unmarked one better since it appears different from each perspective, as if the glass is draped. It is unmarked on the bottom.

I'm hoping someone recognizes the mark or the style of the unmarked one. Any pointers, leads or thoughts will be gratefully appreciated.

 

both interesting !!!

 

VERY interesting, but sadly that's about all I can offer....so does that mean Lead crystal???

 

I needed two new vases like I needed a hole in my head, but yes, I found them very interesting and heavy.

 

Yes. I think the difference between glass and crystal is that crystal has lead in it. I think I read that here. It is very hard for me to resist pretty glass.

 

Google found this one, it has a label for Avitra Crystal Corp but I don't know about a mark.

https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m71...4r3oAdnBmLIdDc4g7u4JjKHLgWqiOQdgaAuWqEALw_wcB

 

Great find. Thank you. I am surprised about the hand cut claim. I have a lot of early hand cut pieces, and they always have slight differences. Thank you very much.

 

Poland. I have to verify the mark. I don't have any Polish glass. Update: I found part of the mark on a Romanian piece with a paper label.

 

No idea what to make of it, perhaps a merger or retailer? No idea where Avitra might fit in.

The vase seems to be Novelette however I found one with a box and mark like yours saying Crystal Clear Industries (NYC address) made in W Germany so perhaps a retailer/importer? And another saying Beyer Crystal (W Germany) though different size.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/143330085235?hash=item215f238973:g:Ib4AAOSwAitdIh73



https://www.ebay.com/itm/154789329245?hash=item240a29b95d:g:huYAAOSwLMdh3KWe&nma=true&si=R1vIjwrlETIwq9zxIyeIptTZpS4%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

 

This sure is interesting. This second vase is smaller than mine, but of the same design and company. Poland, Romania, W Germany, NYC, this design and vase sure gets around. I wonder if there is a master factory somewhere making these and various importers and companies place their labels on them. My mark is etched. Perhaps, it is an earlier version. This is very confusing. Thanks so much for the research.

 

I luv heavy quality glass......hard to resist

 

Me too. As soon as I pick them up, I fall in love.