Schmidt & Feinstein Serving Spoon - Silver Plate or Sterling ?

Discussion in 'Silver' started by drg642, Feb 25, 2015.

  1. drg642

    drg642 Well-Known Member

    Hi, this serving spoon is 8 1/2 inches long and weighs 78 grams. It is marked Schmidt & Feinstein and also has an impressed number 4. It has a strong positive result with the 18K acid test, but I know this is not definitive and can mean either sterling, or just silver plate with heavy plating. The only other test I know to do is the 14K acid dip test that my scrap metal guy taught me, and this can mar the item, especially if its not solid silver, so I'd rather not try it.

    Does the impressed number 4 indicate anything?

    I've searched ebay, google, worthpoint, replacements and not found Schmidt & Feinstein.

    Thanks for any help with this.

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  2. 707susang

    707susang Active Member

  3. 707susang

    707susang Active Member

  4. 707susang

    707susang Active Member

    The design of the handle suggests 1890's or so? By then, wouldn't it be marked sterling, if it was?

    I went through Turner's book twice, didn't see it listed under another manufacturer.
     
  5. drg642

    drg642 Well-Known Member

    Susan, thank you so much for your time and efforts. I would expect this to be marked either way, sterling or silver plate. Maybe a pattern made as an exclusive for the retailer, and so not marked by the maker?
     
  6. 707susang

    707susang Active Member

    Perhaps? Others here will nail it for you, sorry I couldn't.
     
  7. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    Do you think the 4 means quadruple plate?
     
  8. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    A number like that on a silverplated piece usually stands for the pennyweights of silver used in the plating. Sometimes seen with "dwt" following the number (which is the abbreviation for pennyweight.)
     
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  9. 707susang

    707susang Active Member

    Ah! Didn't know that, or if I did, I forgot! hahahaha
     
  10. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Silverplate by Pairpoint in their 'Erminie' pattern, introduced around 1889-90.

    ~Cheryl
     
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  11. drg642

    drg642 Well-Known Member

    Interesting - so do you all think this is more likely plate than sterling?
     
  12. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Erminie pattern, Pairpoint. 1890
     
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  13. drg642

    drg642 Well-Known Member

    Thank you all so much, and Cheryl nailed it. You guys are amazing.
     
  14. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Sniped by Cheryl! I knew I had seen it before, but it took too long to find.
     
  15. 707susang

    707susang Active Member

    Good job, Cheryl!!!

    Turner's book is black and white drawings. I see it is listed there, but was too blurry to see.
     
  16. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Eh, happened to have the 1894 Pairpoint catalog on the table next to me, just took a second to check for the name and a couple more to cross reference dating...

    ~Cheryl
     
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