Featured Help with brooch - is it amber?

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  1. Dory64

    Dory64 Well-Known Member

    Hi, I have this sweet little brooch marked 830 S - no country or makers marks.
    I thought the cabochons looked like butterscotch amber, but I've seen some that also look similar that say natural amber - or are they the same thing? Approx 3.5cm across, 3cm high. thanks in advance for your help.

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  2. Aznathalie

    Aznathalie Well-Known Member

    Amber is susceptible to photoaging, it becomes cloudy and over time, a separate color segment becomes similar to egg yolk. It is popularly called old amber. Has a high value. Screenshot_20220108-093716~2.png
     
  3. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Very pretty.
    It does look like three egg yolks.
    Have you got a UV light as amber reacts to UV.
    I think 830 is a Scandinavian silver fineness mark but someone more knowledgeable will be along soon.
    Id be researching that S!
     
  4. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Looks good for egg yolk. I agree, get a UV on it.
     
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  5. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Maybe Norwegian?
     
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  6. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

  7. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    I've a Danish souvenir spoon with similar separate '830' and 'S' marks...

    ~Cheryl
     
  8. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    I started out thinking possibly Danish but changed my mind. ;)
     
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  9. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    It looks Scandinavian to me..
     
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  10. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Trust your instincts, Sue - the brooch is more in the Danish skønvirke aesthetic...


    My Copenhagen spoon with similar marks:

    danish-spoon-copenhagen-830-S-4 (1).jpg

    danish-spoon-copenhagen-830-S-3 (1).jpg


    ~Cheryl
     
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  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I agree.

    Denmark is also amber country, between the Baltic Sea and the North Sea. We used to go on holidays to Denmark every autumn, and my mother regularly bought amber jewellery there.
     
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  12. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Thank you, Cheryl! :)
     
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  13. Dory64

    Dory64 Well-Known Member

    Hi, yes from my research I thought Danish as well - I have several other items with the 830 S (I always thought the S stood for silver - but perhaps not) some Danish, some from other parts of Europe. I bought it in a thrift shop a few weeks ago. I also bought several items of cutlery from the same shop with the three castle mark, so they could have been donated together by someone with a Danish background - or not. I have tried a UV light on them, but they just look more egg yolky with a pin prick of purple in the middle - no fluorescence.
     
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  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    That is the way egg yolk amber fluoresces, exactly as you describe, a more opaque egg yolky look, with a dot of fuchsia or purple colour.
     
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  15. Dory64

    Dory64 Well-Known Member

    Oh perfect! thank you Any Jewelry - when I looked it up, the pieces of amber appeared green - but they were raw pieces (ie not shaped or set in anything).
     
  16. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Show us a photo if you can Dory then we know what you are seeing :pompous:. I’ve got several pieces of Amber, some confirmed and some dubious and they all fluoresce slightly differently.
     
  17. Dory64

    Dory64 Well-Known Member

    Here are a couple of photos taken tonight and the one with UV definitely is looking like Any Jewelry described. So is it natural, Baltic, egg yolk or butterscotch amber? Or are they one and the same thing? thanks IMG_20220112_211051_resized_20220112_091237566.jpg IMG_20220112_211139_resized_20220112_091237242.jpg
     
  18. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Natural means it's not been fiddled about with, so is a generic term. Baltic is the place of origin. So, it can be both of those. In terms of colour, I'd say egg yolk.
     
  19. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Great pictures!
     
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  20. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I'm with Obb, it is natural Baltic egg yolk amber.:)
     
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