Featured Porcelain religious figure/lamp marked with B on bottom need help

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Kevolee, Dec 23, 2021.

  1. Lark

    Lark Well-Known Member

    You said it was converted to a lamp but if I am correct there is a red raised portion on her head that looks like it was made for a lamp all along.
     
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  2. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Old fashioned writing. Maybe started as a candle holder (tazza/compote/whatever)? There is that hole in the back, which looks to me to be original rather than added, but threading a wire through that thing might be a bit of a chore.
     
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  3. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    There is also something VERY faintly below that name on the Tablet that @Bronwen was able to enhance a bit!!!!! UNFORTUNATELY, it is SO FAINT, I'm unable to bring it out....possibly @moreotherstuff might be able to????
     
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  4. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    I've tried, but not to much avail:
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  5. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

  6. Roaring20s

    Roaring20s Well-Known Member

    I cannot figure out the puzzle of the text.
    I'm leaning towards this being one of a pair.
    She has an Ottoman Empire style about her.
    What is the symbolism of the pattern in her coat?
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  7. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Wonder if the first word on the tablet is Pasieno, using one of those old style Ss that look like Fs. Wish I knew which language we're up against.

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  8. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Probably useless, but I'd be curious to know how all this looks under UV light.
     
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  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I agree, Ottoman dress. The 'harem' trousers, opulent coat, fez with veil, are all very Ottoman. A nice Orientalist figurine, imo.
    With that little protrusion on the top of her fez, I would think she was made to be a lamp base, not converted.
     
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  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Ottoman ladies:
    upload_2021-12-24_11-31-27.jpeg

    Fez with veil (and turban):
    upload_2021-12-24_11-33-23.jpeg
     
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  11. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Badoro?
    Très?
     
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  12. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Latin maybe. Dolours?
     
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  13. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    That's how it was looking to me too.
     
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  14. Kevolee

    Kevolee Well-Known Member

    Sorry everyone, busy with Christmas and just noticed the second page. I assumed it was converted to a lamp because the red was touched up and looks like it was possibly patched. The hole in the back looks a little rough on the right side also.

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  15. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I was agreeing with INH about some of the writing. I have no thoughts on whether or not the figure was always a lamp base.
     
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  16. Kevolee

    Kevolee Well-Known Member

    I was able to squeeze in a bit more research and agree with the Ottoman Turkish suggestion. I found several “Sultan/Sultana” pairs where the female figure was similar to this. I don’t know if it’s a lead or dead end but some similar figures were called flasks, perfume or scent bottles with either metal tops or removable heads. Still not sure about the hole in the back which brings me around again to lamp.
     
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  17. Roaring20s

    Roaring20s Well-Known Member

  18. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

  19. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Great finds! Paris porcelain or 'Old Paris Porcelain' is a generic term for porcelain made in the Paris area roughly between the French Revolution period and ca 1870.

    When the porcelain manufacturers of Paris lost their aristocratic customers, they turned to making items that were affordable for the middle classes. These lower cost items became known under the collective name of Paris porcelain.
     
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  20. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Liquor bottles, I think, rather than perfume. An obvious marketing ploy. They did at least 2 Washington bottles:

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