Mysterious Silver Snuffbox. Made in (Country?) in (1xxx?)

Discussion in 'Silver' started by Shangas, Dec 8, 2018.

  1. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    I bought this today, along with a silver vinaigrette (I'll make a thread about that one later). It's silver, and that's all I know about it. I don't recognise any of the marks...

    Front:
    snuffage01.jpg

    Back: snuffage02.jpg


    Open: snuffage03.jpg snuffage04.jpg snuffage05.jpg


    Mark 1 (under lid) : snuffage06.jpg

    Mark 2 (rim of box) : snuffage07.jpg

    Date letter & another mark (inside box) : snuffage08.jpg

    Two more marks (also inside box) : snuffage09.jpg

    I don't know anything about it, and neither did the lady who sold it to me.

    I showed it to three people already. One thinks it's from the 1820s, one thinks it's from the 1920s. And the third thinks it's also likely from the early 1800s. And I don't know which one to believe.

    Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, what say you? Have you arrived at a verdict?
     
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  2. Daniel oshaughnessy

    Daniel oshaughnessy Active Member

    Looks late 18th to early 19th century to me.
     
  3. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    That was the shared opinion of two other dealers I showed it to, but they couldn't give me a date, beyond the early 1800s.

    Another guy said it was 1910s 1920s Colonial Indian. Which I just don't buy at all. Almost all the colonial Indian silver I've seen has never had hallmarks on it. And this is festooned with marks all over. Problem is, they're not from a country that I recognise.
     
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  4. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Hanau?
     
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  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Very pretty, Shangas. The closest I could find was Falun, Sweden, 18th-19th century:
    upload_2018-12-9_12-2-15.jpeg

    Maybe @The swede can tell us more?
     
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  6. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Never Indian. Can I just throw in that the engraving looks awfully Chinese.
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I don't know, those flower baskets look very European. When was flower basket jewellery fashionable again, was it 1830s-40s?
     
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  8. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

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  9. Lecollectionneur

    Lecollectionneur Well-Known Member

    A nice classical snuffbox, quality was for the independent worker, somebody who can pay around 3-400$ actually for his vice container. ;-)
    This is for me the 17-18th century hallmark of Stettin, now in Germany.

    [​IMG]
     
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  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    For Szczecin/Stettin I only know this town silvermark:
    upload_2018-12-9_17-49-34.jpeg

    It looks like a screaming chicken, but it is actually a crowned griffin head, which is the town crest:
    [​IMG]
    I think you meant that Stettin used to be German. It is now Polish, Szczecin.
     
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  11. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    So. Any consensus yet? I've scoured loads of pages and websites, but...nothing yet.
     
  12. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    how's about a vinegar bath overnight ?
     
  13. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    ...what's that for?
     
  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Don't go there, Shang.:facepalm: Let's say Fid's was a rather idiosyncratic reaction.
     
    Last edited: Dec 9, 2018
  15. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    for seeing the marks more clearly.
     
  16. The swede

    The swede Active Member

    The snuffbox is not Swedish, as the marking follow certain rules. Always all marks in a row and always with the state mark/control mark containing three crowns. Makers mark 2 or 3 letters or the full name in a rectangular frame.
    Tricky marks, I must say. Can’t find them in my books.
     
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  18. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

  19. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    What is the black coating on the bottom inside?It looks like part of it has flaked off and the "box" with the A may have another symbol with the A.
     
  20. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    I've cleaned the interior as best as I can, including scraping off the black crusting of whatever the hell that stuff is. There's no other marks, and nothing next to the A.
     
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