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Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by antiquelove, Nov 26, 2021.

  1. antiquelove

    antiquelove New Member

    1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg 4.jpg Just got this fan from a sale and would like to get an idea for how old this fan?
    is it worth something?
    thanks!
     
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  2. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    Let me call someone who knows about old fans for you, @Any Jewelry would you please take a look at this one? It's lovely! :joyful:
     
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  3. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    Hi @antiquelove & welcome to the forum!! :happy::happy:

    The person @antidiem tagged will be able to tell you all about your lovely fan but it will likely be a few hours from now unless she has one of her sleepless nights. ;):happy:

    However, we hope she is fast asleep over in the Netherlands. :kiss::kiss:
     
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  4. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

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  5. LauraGarnet02

    LauraGarnet02 Well-Known Member

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    LauraGarnet02 Well-Known Member

  7. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    If it is what I think it is, then it's not likely to be very old.
     
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  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is a Spanish fan, late 20th to early 21st century.
    The frame is faux mother-of-pearl, which is basically a pretty plastic. The leaf is hand painted.

    This is an example of a nice quality modern fan, inspired by 18th and 19th century fans. Many Spanish ladies still use similar fans, as does yours truly. Mine has a classic Goya scene, often painted on contemporary Spanish fans, but yours has a detail of my favourite El Greco painting, which @LauraGarnet02 already found.
     
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  9. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    As above... "a nice quality modern fan" with hand painting. Not to be confused with the more usual mass produced tourist offering.

    It appears that fans signed "R. Segarra" have some value. Here's one that sold on a Spanish auction site for 54€.

    https://en.todocoleccion.net/antiqu...oya-firmado-r-segarra~x52952226#sobre_el_lote

    Here's another, on offer for 160€, which appears to have come in a wooden box.

    Given the elaborateness of the sticks, I would think both of these examples are older than yours.

    Debora

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  10. stracci

    stracci Well-Known Member

    Wow, I've never seen a funeral depicted on a fan.
    Interesting!
     
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  11. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    :kiss:Thanks for the tag! I’m rather used to “crushed in shipping” Chinese hand screens:arghh:
    But recognizing mother of pearl simulant, I totally agree with @Any Jewelry dating:)
     
  12. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    The scene on the back is likely intended to be the River Tagus which surrounds Toledo.

    Debora
     
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  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I think that first one has a bone frame, which means it is likely antique. It has no loop bracket, which is usually present on modern Spanish fans. The more naively painted figures also point to age in Spanish fans.
    If it is the same name, maybe several generations of fan leaf painters?
    Here is the close up picture of the frame:

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  14. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I think you're right re generations of fan painters using the same name. I see some signed R. Segarra from an currently operating (better quality) fan factory in Valencia. That means, of course, important to match signatures to confirm/not.

    Debora
     
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  15. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    And that is PRECISELY what I thought it was. I had one very similar to this when I was a child.
     
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