Featured John Smith London Clock

Hi everybody.
I have this clock, originally there is a shelf underneath, but I do not have it.
My question is: replica or not.
thank you.

 

In the last photo it says 'made in west germany', which means that part at least was made between 1945 and 1990. It could be a replacement, or...

@afantiques , @buyingtime777 , your insights please.

 

Probably not that old. Here's a similar one that sold for 270 Euros
https://auction.catawiki.com/kavels/7214027-english-lantern-clock-john-smith-london-circa-1981

 

I see that the clockwork is made in Germany. The one I have is west Germany. will that make any difference in the price?

 

I don't think so, a few years difference, either way it would be a replica. Let's wait what the clock people say.

 

JMHO. a form known as Comtoise. West Germany was used after WWII well into at least the 1970s. either a marriage of the after-war remains or simply a cheap German clock with a made-up face to deceive.

 

This is not a Comtoise imo. At least not the ones from Franche-Comté, the region they are named after.
Although Comtoises do have those spindles, and some have a big bell on top, they generally look like these, with slight variations:

 

It is a fairly modern replica of an English lantern clock of about 1700 of typical form including fake named dial.
It is a little uncommon in being weight driven, most are spring driven so this is a bit more like the original design but of modern materials (which are actually inferior to the 18th C ones.) It is a decorative piece of no horological or antique interest.

 

Thanks, @afantiques , that is exactly why I tagged you, your expertise.

 

Thanks for all the information.

 

The Hermle movement clearly marked '77'. . so 1977 is the age. Everything about the case indicates a reproduction of this age.

 

As said a modern replica, not a fake or a copy legally speaking , and not the best one, here is how looks an original untouched from that period.
Interesting to see that fingers are from french style on your clock…


And how looks the rear with this view of the alarm mecanism(not cleaned too).