Pewter plate - Help with identifying

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  1. typeblu

    typeblu New Member

    Hi. I have this plate i am trying to learn a little background on. I have been combing pewter sites trying to learn all I can but i need some help. I'm assuming the touchmarks are pseudo hallmarks, but anyone have any idea the age of this or what the marks may mean? Thank you in advance.

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  2. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    I don't have time to pull out my pewter books to look through this morning but I'll try this evening if no one else had found it for you. When I see that 95% ( tin content) I think it usually means it's newer but I haven't looked at any pewter for awhile.

    Welcome to the boards!
     
  3. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    I'm a pewter ignoramus but a quick search turned up this possibility, even though it doesn't seem to be a current offering:

    "Match Pewter contains 95% tin, making it better quality than many pewter products on the market. Pieces are stamped with up to four different stamps: "M" for Match, "95" for both the year the company was formed and the percentage of tin content, the lion emblem which is the company logo. In addition, pieces are often stamped by the factory in Italy which produced the piece."


    http://www.thepolishedplate.com/match-pewter-m25.aspx?pagenum=3
     
  4. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    Right, a definite sign that a piece is relatively new, 20th century. I also haven't had time to look through my pewter references; however, my pewter books are on 19th century and earlier pewter marks. Pat's pewter site on tankards, etc... was one if not the best pewter marks sites out there. After he died, I was still able to get to his pages via an archive web engine. No more!! Can't get to the archived pages any longer. I did save a few of his pewter marks pages on to my computer. Possibly later today, I'll have time to scan through them. I wish I could clearly see the 3rd mark. I can clearly see the Lion rampant and the lobster but not the one in the pointed ellipse, marquise, shape. The mark appears to have letters around the top and some sort of figure in the center. The figure may be a standing eagle, a person in an elaborate costume, or who knows maybe E.T. Have included a cropped brightened enlargement of that 3rd mark. Hopefully someone with younger eyes can make it out.

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    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

  6. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    That lobster looks more like a scorpion.
     
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  7. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    Somewhere I read that the rampant lion is a symbol used by the town of Brescia, Italy. Sure it is a very-widely used symbol in Europe but Brescia might be the only lion-symbol town with pewter factories. Agree with scorpion.
     
  8. peltro

    peltro New Member

    Hi, I found the same touch marks on several ebay items, and one of them came with original stickers - 'made in Thailand'. Here's the link:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pewter-Pitc...401417?hash=item25b100acc9:g:WcUAAOSw5VFWQXt4

    I could not find any Italian/French/British touch marks featuring scorpio. French crab is the closest one, however it looks nothing like the touch mark on your plate and refers to sterling, not pewter.

    Images:

    http://i1030.photobucket.com/albums/y366/agnes_chalk/s-l1600 1_zpslowqjtd9.jpg

    http://i1030.photobucket.com/albums/y366/agnes_chalk/s-l1600_zpskj7mdzyq.jpg
     
  9. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Good information Peltro.....
    It's always welcomed to have a final answer to a thread ....

    but FYI ...the OP hasn't been seen here since this thread was posted almost one year ago.
     
  10. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Exactly a year ago. ;)
     
  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    in 8 minutes....from where I'm sitting !! :smuggrin::smuggrin:
     
  12. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    The OP has a date of Feb 18 2015 on it. It's still Feb 18 2016 in my neck of the woods.
     
  13. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Funny....my page shows the 19th !! ???

    You're west coast....I'm east coast.....maybe the 3 hr difference ???
     
  14. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

  15. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    WELCOME typeblu, I'm sure you'll find lots to learn and share here!!!! Great antiquers here willing to share their knowledge as well!!!! Enjoy the fun!!!
     
  16. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately, typeblu apparently posted and ran. Hasn't been back in a year. ;)
     
  17. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Your welcome is sweet......but falls on deaf ears......
    It pays to check the date of the OP.

    You could welcome Peltro, though.
     
  18. Vee

    Vee Member

    Hi,
    I am new to this site and could do with any help you guys can offer on identifying the lobster/scorpion mark at the beginning of this thread.
    Below are the marks on the bottom of my candle sticks.
    Any information you can give on the crown, lobster/scorpion (top picture) and the unusual mark (bottom picture).

    Regards

    Vincent....

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  19. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Hi and WELCOME Vincent!! There should be several experts here to help with your questions ..... they will probably want to see the whole candlesticks as well.... are we talking pewter???
     
  20. Vee

    Vee Member

    Hi,
    Thank you for your welcome and fast response.
    Yes they are pewter.

    Photo of one below.

    Regards

    Vincent...

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