Empire Chest age or info?

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  1. Amelee

    Amelee New Member

    Bought this chest in the USA. It is about:
    47” wide
    20” deep
    44" tall
    Has a cool old tag from an owner on the back that I will include a photo of. The drawers are dovetail - may have to zoom in to see them (kinda thin). I also love the drawer pulls - very detailed. Let me know if you know anything about it. Going to be part of my bedroom set now. Fell in love with it but would like to know how old if possible. Thanks!
    front.jpg back.jpg IMG_1064.jpg drawer2.jpg label.jpg Just
     
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  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Isn't that label fab? And that's how it was done in the past.

    Debora
     
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  3. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Lovely piece. Try some Howards RestorAFinish to bring out its beauty. Those handmade dovetails will help the furniture experts to date it.
     
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  4. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    That could be Marion M or Marcon M. Palmer, both heads' of households in Delhi in the 1915 census and born 1866. (Perhaps they were twins.)

    Debora
     
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  5. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    @Ghopper1924!!! And are those brass pulls ORIGINAL??????
     
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  6. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    From a quick internet search, it appears the Palmers are an old Delaware County, New York family. They've been there since (at least) the early 1800s. I mention this because it's not unlikely that your chest was a family piece shipped to younger member when an older member died.

    Debora
     
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  7. Amelee

    Amelee New Member

    Not sure if they are originals or not but they are very light and very detailed. I looked at the drawer where the pulls attach to the drawer and there is a middle hole so not sure if there was something else there before or they decided to change pulls.
    backofpull.jpg
     
  8. FishLure

    FishLure FishN Ephemera

     
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  9. FishLure

    FishLure FishN Ephemera

    Nice piece..I would have to say the pulls were changed out from singles, but the look certainly enhances the painted "legs", in my opinion, and adds elegance to a very old bureau. ! Thanks for the pics! Alex
     
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  10. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    Handsome mahogany veneer Late Classical dresser ca. 1840s-50s. The original pulls would have been single round wood or glass. These replacement pulls, however, are quite handsome and go with the painted legs, as FishLure mentioned. Both are later alterations, but tasteful and enhancing.

    Note - Changed to Late Classical, from Empire. @James Conrad has been educational for all of us in defining these terms. I now know the difference, but still get the words for the individual styles reversed on occasion.
     
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  11. Amelee

    Amelee New Member

    Thanks for the great info. Why are they called painted legs?
     
  12. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    The gold bands were additions.
     
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  13. Amelee

    Amelee New Member

    The legs are wood there are no ‘gold bands’ maybe it is just the photo lighting?
     
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  14. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    It's Late Classical, mid 19th century, machine-built except for the drawer boxes. Pulls have been "updated" with victorian handles, appears to have some veneer damage near the top.
    This late classical style is often confused with empire, not sure why exactly, very popular in it's day.
     
  15. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    GLAD you added this photo to help with IDing!!!
     
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  16. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    Must be. The reflectivity in the first photograph makes me (and @FishLure , evidently) think that the legs have a series of gold bands against the wood background, comprised of each of the short, convex circular areas. Curious.
     
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  17. Amelee

    Amelee New Member

    here's a better photo of the leg
    IMG_1788.jpg
     
  18. Amelee

    Amelee New Member

    Thank you for the information. I love that it is so old and still around being used.
     
  19. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    Much better. It only goes to show how misleading photos can be when it comes to furniture.
     
  20. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Yes, a lot of this form around from this period so had to be very popular plus, they made them for quite a long time, up until 1900 or so with various leg styles.
    This form can get a bit pricey if it has fancy veneers, figured maple or cherry for example.
    This one sold at Cowans in 2012 for $600
    tiger maple.jpg
    A quick search on LiveAuctioneers reveals hundreds of them in sold category
    https://www.liveauctioneers.com/sea...est of drawers&sort=-relevance&status=archive
    Indeed, I have been fooled more than once with photos of old furniture, not sure why it just doesn't photograph well for details.
     
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