Featured obscure birds

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Fid, Oct 28, 2018.

  1. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    looks like painted terra cotta, has a mark RM over G. and a separate signature. height 21 cm by 32 cm diagonally.
    all ideas, hints etc. welcome. TIA.
    upload_2018-10-28_16-56-45.jpeg
    upload_2018-10-28_16-57-25.jpeg
    upload_2018-10-28_16-57-52.jpeg
    upload_2018-10-28_16-58-53.jpeg upload_2018-10-28_16-56-45.jpeg upload_2018-10-28_16-57-25.jpeg upload_2018-10-28_16-57-52.jpeg upload_2018-10-28_16-58-53.jpeg upload_2018-10-28_16-56-45.jpeg upload_2018-10-28_16-57-25.jpeg upload_2018-10-28_16-57-52.jpeg upload_2018-10-28_16-58-53.jpeg
     
  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    it's stunning.....
     
    Christmasjoy and i need help like this.
  3. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

  4. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Christmasjoy and i need help like this.
  5. BaseballGames

    BaseballGames Well-Known Member

    Can't help but read it as "R.l'benniele"...
     
    Christmasjoy, i need help and Bronwen like this.
  6. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Love the birds. They seem to take themselves very seriously.;)
    It looks like R. Moennich to me.
    There was a Paul Moennich, who was a scientist and artist, but I can't find an R. Moennich.
    Maybe our magnificent searcher @i need help can find R. Moennich?
     
    Christmasjoy, i need help and Bronwen like this.
  7. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    I wonder as well about the bottom number. who uses two hyphens below the o ?
     
    judy, Christmasjoy and Bronwen like this.
  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I have seen two lines under the o of No before. It used to be done here in the Netherlands, but this doesn't strike me as a Dutch piece.
    German names on the other hand are not unusual here, due to an enormous influx of German speakers during the 17th century, the Dutch Golden Age. So I wouldn't rule out the Low Countries as a possible origin altogether.
     
  9. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    So far just mention of Rudolf Moennich architect.
     
  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    That's a start.:)
     
  11. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Is there a third birds head on the opposite side?
     
    Christmasjoy and Bronwen like this.
  12. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

  13. Savvy*Spyglass*Treasures

    Savvy*Spyglass*Treasures Fancy Endeavours. That's my user ID on eBay now.

    It sure makes me think of the Martin Brothers. But, the marks belie that attribution. Really interesting piece!

    Juli
     
  14. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Think there may be 2 more.
     
    judy and Christmasjoy like this.
  15. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    Good idea.
    I thought about these as well, especially Reinhold Merkelbach. but these worked in saltglaze mostly. but I'll check if they ever used a simple G for Grenzhausen before the villages were united in 1936.
     
    judy, Bronwen and Christmasjoy like this.
  16. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

  17. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    why do I buy such stuff anyway ? :hilarious:
    didn't find a fitting name in several books I still have from the olden days when I collected salt glaze Westerwald stuff.
    so off it goes to the looooooooooooooooong shelf with the mystery items.
    sometimes it helps me to forget about it and when looking at it after a while - bingo, there's the solution.;)
    thank you all for your help.
     
    Bakersgma, cxgirl, Bronwen and 2 others like this.
  18. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

  19. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Looks like they do not know the artist name, either, but the sig has two extra letters, "er" or "en" at the end. And there is a label, apparently:

    I offer you a historic ceramic vase (ceramic clay) with a plastic twig of blue lilies, matte ceramic paints, a few small defects of plastic decoration, and abrasions and cavities of enamel at the edge.
    Signatures engraved on the side of the belly: shield with letters R • M / G •, author's signature (?): R. Mennicher (...) or R. Mennick (...)?;from the bottom on the black bottom engraved: No.4.
    Non-permanent label - Central European atelier (Czech Republic, Austro-Hungary?), XIX / XX century
    Vase tapering upwards, with a narrow rim around the base and a separate narrowing edge around the spout.Along the bushy handles in the form of plastic shoots ending with leaves at the upper root, wrapped in loops.From the front modeled momentum with a flower and bud of a blue lily.
    height - 50 cm, width with ears - 30 cm, diameter of the base - 20 cm,
    The subject has a written opinion and valuation of the auction house.
    The picture can be seen in the antique shop * Old Street *.We are located in Krakow's Kazimierz at ul.Krakowska 29.

    -- Actually, I see now that yours has those two extra letters at the end as well. Harder to see on yours.
     
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2018
  20. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    @Figtree3 You found a needle in the Haystack!!!!! :pompous::pompous::pompous:
     
    cxgirl, Figtree3 and judy like this.
Draft saved Draft deleted
Similar Threads: obscure birds
Forum Title Date
Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain Maddingly Obscure Sig on Floral Plate Apr 3, 2023
Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain Obscure Bowl Inherited - Any information? Jul 27, 2019
Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain Small pottery bowl - obscured mark - anyone recognize? Sep 1, 2018
Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain Pottery Vase/Basket - Hobby Shop or Obscure Maker? Aug 1, 2017
Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain Obscure A. Ruckl Czech Art Deco Glass Vase - Won Auction, What A Fluke! Jul 24, 2017

Share This Page