Featured Question About Partial Page in Antique Book

The text INH found is from this book:
Cigarette Papers for After-dinner Smoking

Joseph Hatton
J.B. Lippincott, 1892 - English essays

in this section:


He says of the Cope's booklets generally:

[What he says on the next page that he rolled is cigars, so imagine they would use a different type of paper.]

This passage is comparing the binding of his own book to those of the Cope's booklets:


The 'fluttering papers' (I assume the tissue used to cover illustrations, as in cxgirl's pic) belong to Hatton's book & it is only in imagination that they can be used as rolling papers.

I have seen a 'stub' like this in other old books but do not know what binding process leads to them. I'm just prepared to say none of them has anything to do with rolling papers.

 

I'm sure I don't know much of anything about bookbinding but I did find this in a glossary of terms. I'm wondering if a page was removed (cancel) due to error and then a new page was never tipped in or replaced in your edition.

http://www.ioba.org/pages/resources/book-terminology/

CANCEL Due to errors or defects in printing, a book may have one or more pages removed from the text block by the publisher after it has been bound. The new printed matter pasted on to the resulting stub(s) by the publisher is referred to as a “cancel” or “cancellans”.

TIPPED IN Paper, photograph, or print glued down by only a narrow strip.

 

I believe this description is referring to the soft cover of the booklet/brochure, which is highly decorated. It also may be referring to a separate paper cover that could have been wrapped over the cover. In my recollection, that's what the word "wrapper" refers to in bookbinding.

 

Sounds good, but the "fluttering papers" imo seems to be referring to part of the cover designs. (At least that's how I read it.) Since we have only seen one of the covers in the series it is hard for me to know what they are talking about. The protective pages could be what thay are referring to, but those were common in illustrated books and I wonder why they would be mentioned in that way?

 

Wrappers are defined in the last entry on this page: http://eaglebookshop.co.uk/glossary

 

The printing process for a plate such as the portrait on the frontispiece (the page facing the title page) sometimes requires a different type of paper from the rest of the text. In such a case, the plate might be tipped in (pasted in as a separate sheet), or it may be sewn into the binding. If it is sewn in, there is usually a "stub" (an incomplete page) that appears, which is the tail end of the separate plate page.
It is just an artifact of the binding process.
Looking at the top edge of the binding, you might be able to follow the "stub" page through the fold, and see if it is a continuation of the frontispiece.

 

This bit of Hatton's book, Cigarette Papers for After-Dinner Smoking, is in praise of the enjoyment of the Cope's booklets/brochures. He rhapsodizes about their covers and he goes back & forth between describing the fine points of his 'publisher's presentation of these...notes...with its design of fluttering papers...' and the ways the Cope's publications are superior.




It is a bit confusing, but with 306 pages, Hatton's book was surely in hard covers. What fluttering papers could it have had other than the upscale feature of illustrations worthy of protective tissue over them, something the promotional Cope's booklets would not have had beyond the frontispiece? I read it as the 'design of fluttering papers' belonging to the 'publisher's presentation', and the 'presentation' as referring to the entire way the book was made, not to the cover only.

 

With all the advertising, it is easy to imagine the need to add or remove something late in the process.

I think this is the most likely reason for it.

Is the paper of the portrait of Carlyle different from the rest of the pages &, if so, is the stub the same paper as the portrait?

 

Oh, I see. I thought the "fluttering papers" referred to the Cope booklets. Now I see that it instead refers to his own publisher's presentation. Thanks!

Just found the cover of Hatton's book, in HathiTrust! The papers were "fluttering" out of a case of some sort in the image. You may need to scroll up to get to the cover image.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.hn5vcp;view=1up;seq=1

 

Yep, you got it. The 'fluttering papers' are part of the cover design for Hatton's own book. Rolling paper fluttering out of little envelope they came in. OK, think that bit is settled.

 

Thanks for all the replies folks

thanks 2manybooks The stub page is a continuation of the strip on the front page, it has been glued on the front page.

 

Thanks for all the replies folks

thanks Bronwen no, same paper

 

thanks fig
the link wouldn't work for me, has the message 'limited search due to copyright restrictions'

 

lol, I agree.

 

Sorry... Maybe it is because you are in Canada?

 

Trying to see if I can insert a PDF here... Can you open it, @cxgirl ?

 

it opens...
after a while

 

thank-you fig, that worked

 

So, it was the method for inserting that particular page of advertisement. There were probably a variety of add insertions depending on when and where the pamphlet was sold.

 

I just sold an atlas that had similar paper sticking out, I assumed it had to do with was how the book was bound. As far as I remember there were more than one like this and they did connect to a map further along in the book...