Need help with Berne signature on oil painting

Discussion in 'Art' started by Joan, Oct 24, 2018.

  1. Joan

    Joan Well-Known Member

    Does anyone recognize the artist's signature (Berne') on this oil painting? The date on the back shows it was framed in 1963 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin (it didn't have a frame when I bought it several years ago at a thrift store). The canvas looks like heavy linen and is stapled to the frame (the paper backing is loose on one corner so I was able to see the back of the canvas). I'm thinking it was probably painted by an amateur, but wanted to know if anyone is familiar with this signature before I sell it. I haven't been able to learn anything by searching online. painting.jpg paintingc.jpg Signature.jpg writing.jpg label.jpg
     
  2. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Certainly signed with confidence. I couldn't find anything relevant either. Framing was ordered shortly before Christmas. Maybe parent having offspring's work made professional looking as a gift for the artist, or to give to another family member, such as grandma?
     
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  3. silverthwait

    silverthwait Well-Known Member

    LOVE whatever the painting is propped against!
     
  4. Joan

    Joan Well-Known Member

    Thank you silverthwait. It's a butternut secretary and I love it too even though it has cracked glass, some bad repairs and other condition issues.
    secretary.jpg
     
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  5. silverthwait

    silverthwait Well-Known Member

    Wow! Really IS pretty! And your photo shows no glitches. Brad may see some, but not me. :)
     
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  6. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Lots of Bernes in Milwaukee at that time (according to familysearch.org.) Bet someone painted and had framed for family member.

    Debora
     
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  7. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    It looks like department store art to me.
     
  8. Joan

    Joan Well-Known Member

    I took another look at the stretcher, and it's marked Grumbacher. Does that make it more likely to be painted by an amateur/hobby artist instead of department store art?
     
  9. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Department store art would already be framed. Framer still in business. One could always ask...

    Debora
     
  10. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    The frame might have parted ways years ago, so that doesn't mean much. Can't hurt to ask.
     
  11. Joan

    Joan Well-Known Member

    I just thought of another angle....the pencil writing on the back indicates the framed painting was sold for $121.00 ($85 for the painting and $36 for an oak frame).
    According to Eitel's website (now known as Bresler Eitel Art & Framing Gallery), it looks like it evolved from a framing gallery that was purchased by a paint store that was purchased by an art gallery. Maybe a local artist sold their paintings through the framing gallery and someone purchased it along with a frame (as a Christmas present for someone).
     
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  12. Joan

    Joan Well-Known Member

    Maybe I was wrong in my previous post. It doesn't actually say the painting cost $85. It says, "Oil painting to have frame" and farther down (not shown) is very faint writing that looks like "oak frame $6.50 per foot," so maybe the basic framing charge was $85 plus $36 for an oak frame?? Anyway, I think I've come to the conclusion that the painting isn't worth much. I liked the colors when I bought it, but they're probably not what people like nowadays.
     
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  13. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    where's the oak frame go???:inpain:
     
  14. Joan

    Joan Well-Known Member

    Someone removed it before I acquired the painting -- maybe they liked the frame but not the painting.
     
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  15. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    The style is similar to still life prints I've had from circa 1940s or so.
     
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