Featured Native American sterling necklace

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by billyd3us, Oct 12, 2018.

  1. billyd3us

    billyd3us Thanks All my Friends

    This necklace is not marked anywhere but, test positive for sterling silver .
    Anyone know who or how old or which tribe made it ?

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  2. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Southwestern. Looks Navajo and older to me, maybe 50s ish.
     
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  3. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    It's either Navajo or the best wanna-be I've seen in a while. The stringing looks odd but the rest looks dead on. I've never seen a native made necklace on chain like that.
     
  4. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

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  5. billyd3us

    billyd3us Thanks All my Friends

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  6. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    Fakes/copies.. depends on how they were represented when they were sold.They look like original NA made items,copied from 40+ years of photos in Arizona Highways magazines,various hobbyist magazines,photos at gem and mineral shows,etc. 10's of thousands made by hobbyist,snowbirds at the rock shops Arizona and New Mexico.If they don't have an identified mark,they could have been made by anyone and if you read the article those often had fake marks.
     
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  7. coreya

    coreya Well-Known Member

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  8. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    It can be sterling & still be fake as a Native American made article. The gift shops at the Grand Canyon are full of Indian-y looking items. When I was there, only one sold NAM items exclusively. The others all had a little section carefully labeled as NAM; rest of the stuff was made elsewhere.

    There are good quality fakes & poor quality ones.
     
  9. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    Having the origin area of turquoise means little,turquoise from U.S. locations has been sold for over 60 years to many countries.
     
  10. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Whether fake or true, I like it and think it has a graceful shape. :)
     
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  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Billy, it's real silver & real Turquoise & I've seen many strung on that type of wire .
    You can call it Southwest Style, only because you can't identify the artist.
    Yes many non native items are in the marketplace....but.....let's not forget that the Authentic Native items still outweigh the fakes....by a mile !
     
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  12. Christmasjoy

    Christmasjoy Well-Known Member

    It's really LOVELY Billy, .. I wouldn't hesitate to drape that around my neck, VERY NICE indeed !!! .. Joy. :)
     
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  13. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

  14. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    it looks like a W......but that may just be the marking on the clasp.
     
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  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is a lovely, very elegant necklace, Billy. My guess is late 70s.
    If I were to sell it, I would call it Southwest style, as komo said. If pieces aren't signed, or 'signed by design' - unmistakeably made in ... era by famous maker such and such - it is impossible to say for sure.

    The style resembles or is inspired by what we now call Navajo, as obb said.
    But in the early years of SW Native silversmithing there was a general fashionable style made by all silversmiths, based on demand.
    Although turquoise was already being mined, much of the early turquoise in NA jewellery was imported from Persia and Afghanistan.
    Persian turquoise is still highly valued, as is Mediterranean coral.
    The appreciation of local turquoise, and the valuation of turquoise from one mine over another, came later. Nowadays many Native silversmiths work with turquoise from around the globe again.

    Out of the fashions of the early days, the Navajo style developed as more Art Nouveau and designs introduced by the Spanish, and the Zuni as more Art Deco with distinct Zuni designs. The style we now know as Hopi, based on archeological motifs, was developed for a silversmithing project for Hopi war veterans.
    But artists being artists, the style lines were never rigid.
    I agree, it has. I know of some silversmiths here in the Netherlands who have worked with Sleeping Beauty turquoise. But never in a NA style.
    And turquoise from other countries has always been used in the SW as well. Some turquoise from Hubei, China, resembles US turquoise and is now also used by NA artists.
     
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  16. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It doesn't look like a maker's mark. In this case I would expect a maker's mark to be located on one of the pendants, usually together with a sterling mark.
     
  17. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    By no means all NA or specifically Navajo stuff is marked, of course, especially the older pieces. Many of the rings I own, which have real age to them, have no marks at all.

    Fake is a misnomer, especially given this is silver and turquoise, so the components are real. A fake would be something with wannabee markings, for a start. In the style of, is perhaps a better term.

    I don't see any reason this isn't Navajo - and a dollar is a heck of a bargain, anyhow.
     
  18. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Yes, a lot of pre-1980 NA jewellery is not marked. The coveted Old Pawn jewellery ( the real deal, not what some sellers call Old Pawn) is rarely marked.

    The decision to only accept marked NA jewellery as NA was a bureaucratic one. In my opinion it denied the history and strong tradition of NA jewellery making.
    If there had been an assay system, or quality control system with additional registered marking by a recognized organization (like the second Mesa 'Hopi Guild'), this wouldn't have happened.

    Anyway, whoever made Billy's necklace, it is lovely and a real bargain.
     
  19. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    After snooping around some....I'm going to echo Owned , & say...IMHO...this is authentic Navajo....& maybe Fred Harvey era.
    It's classic pearl & Barrel .....I'm just not 100% on when the twisted metal wire was 1st used to string the beads.
     
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  20. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I've got rings - and a few other bits - bought when I first went to the SW USA in the late 70s and early 80s. They aren't marked, and were certainly not new then. Fred Harvey era it might well be, it's well made and good quality.
     
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