What type of Watson Lily fork is it?

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  1. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    White woman speak with forked fork..........:hilarious:
     
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  2. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    As already suggested, it was most likely sold as small beef fork, used to serve sliced meat...

    ~Cheryl
     
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  3. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    That's an interesting link.
    However, the lobster fork is not there. It says to see oyster fork, and that looks more like a shrimp cocktail fork.

    A lobster fork has spiked tines, as does the one shown by the OP.
     
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  4. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Beef forks are typically fairly small serving pieces with four (occasionally three) tines, the outer tines flared - I don't have any Watson catalogs, so unable to show that particular design, but below is a page from Osterberg's 'Sterling Silver Flatware for Dining Elegance' (1994), along with some old catalog clips.


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    1901 - Beef Fork, small:
    beefforktowle1901.JPG

    1916 - Smoked Beef Fork:
    beefforkwallace1916.JPG

    1917 - Chipped Beef or Bacon Fork:
    beefforkchippedbaconDL1917.jpg
    1917 - Beef Fork:
    beefforkDL1917.JPG


    ~Cheryl
     
  5. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    @DragonflyWink
    Are there any pictures of Lobster forks? Maybe on the fish fork page.

    Notice all the meat fork tines go straight or curve outward. The OP's fork has hooks turned inward.

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  6. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Can't say I recall seeing lobster forks as serving pieces, they're not particularly common (seafood fork kind of covers it), but are longish slender place pieces, and there are the long lobster picks, with two tiny tines/prongs, sometimes including a rendition of the critter as part of the design.

    While the same pieces are sometimes found in catalogs and ads described for different uses, this fork was almost certainly sold as a beef fork - personally, I see those center tines as wide and straight, curved sides tapering to a point, like on the center tine of the one in my last clip or at top right on the Osterberg page. There are always going to be variations in style by manufacturer and pattern, but if reliable reference isn't available showing the same item, then you go by its size and general characteristics.

    Here is a beef fork from a 1905 publication that differs from the others shown, with outer tines that appear to curve in, but are essentially straight:
    beeffork1905towle.JPG

    beeffork1905towle-1a.jpg

    The OP's fork:
    beefforktines-1a.jpg

    ~Cheryl
     
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  7. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    From 1905 and 1906:

    lobsterfork1905towle.JPG

    lobsterfork1906towle.JPG

    ~Cheryl
     
  8. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

  9. ola402

    ola402 Well-Known Member

    IDK, in looking at the fork, there are two smallish center tines that look like they're for shoveling (getting under) and then two outer tines with hooks maybe meant to grab what you shoveled up. So my mind went to some kind of shellfish.

    Wish we could find a catalog from the manufacturer. I checked the Flatware Fashions web site, but nada there. There were just so many specific pieces back in the day. I guess the OP will have to sell this one to someone who has it all, except this fork.

    I found a Bird Fork in my pattern once. Took me forever to figure it out since previous generations ate all the Passenger Pigeons. But it was a fun search expedition.
     
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  10. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

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  11. silverthwait

    silverthwait Well-Known Member

    The two center tines look as if they are meant to pinion the whatsit down, while the outer sides with the hooks then hold it on the fork while transportation takes place from server to plate. Something slithery. Served whole. Or in large pieces. Baked apple?
     
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  12. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

  13. silverthwait

    silverthwait Well-Known Member

    How about if you just send it to me, and I'll just press it into service and thereby determine proper usages. :)
     
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  14. jhernjh

    jhernjh Member

    LOL. Just look it up on my store and for a small fee, I can make that happen. :D

    And Thank You All for the many responses. You all rock
     
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