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Discussion in 'Ephemera and Photographs' started by Bev aka thelmasstuff, Feb 7, 2015.

  1. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    2015-02-07 09.39.24 (800x490).jpg I got this photo from a friend (who shall remain nameless unless she owns up) from Ebay awhile ago. She was trying to find out who this man might be. It's such an intriguing photo. He's bedridden. There's an antique phone next to him. Some large books topped by what looks like a photo album. Pinned above him are the September 30, 1929 issue of Time with Ina Claire Gilbert on the cover and another Time magazine that I haven't been able to ID. He's holding the October 1929 issue of Pictorial Review and he's holding a pen as if he's about to autograph it.

    So, is it Uncle Louis in the institution, or is it someone famous? We decided it isn't Picasso. Have at it. Captions allowed.
     
  2. Messilane

    Messilane Well-Known Member

    I already told you - it's Uncle Fred!
    :hilarious:
     
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  3. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    Time August 12 1929 Paul Shoup So. Pacific RR pres. Those "large books" are actually letter boxes marked "Letters" made to look like books so they will look good on a bookshelf. He's a smoker so he may be dying from lung cancer. Do I win?
     
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  4. Messilane

    Messilane Well-Known Member

    Spring, I think that came up when I first posted this to the old Antiques Board, but it isn't Paul Shoup.
     
  5. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Oh, fun!

    I just did some looking and found nothing helpful... need to leave soon but will look later.

    Springfld.arsenal, you figured out the cover! Now, who is the man in the photo?

    He does look like Picasso, later in life. But I won't go there since you've already eliminated him.
     
  6. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Finding the contents of that issue of Pictorial Review might help. I did find a few things, but none panned out. (For example, this is NOT Henry Ford!)
     
  7. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    I remember this thread.
    Wasn't this found in the Denver area?
    Didn't we discus TB institutions?
    Love the little lamp hanging above his head
     
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  8. Messilane

    Messilane Well-Known Member

    Yes, yes, and me too.
    :)
     
  9. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    Okay, Paul Shoup on the magazine, but the guy in bed is....who? It would make a good Get Well card.
     
  10. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Sorry that I don't remember the previous discussion! Is it still online, or has it been axed?
     
  11. Messilane

    Messilane Well-Known Member

    I have no idea, Fig. It was many years ago - 4? 5? 7?
    I do remember that we had a lot of fun with it though.
     
  12. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Hm. Why those 2 editions of Time specifically? Did you ever investigate who did the cover art?
     
  13. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    WAG: Horace Winston Stokes, an author who had an article in that Ed of Review.

    But a few minutes of search didn't find a named photo of him, is y I call it a WAG.

    M guessing if u pulled down the TOC for each of the 3 mags shown and found one author common to all, he'd b da man. Sry I'm out of time or would do that.

    The cover artists for the Time mags shown R 2 diff ppl.
     
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  14. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    He was born in 1886, so would have been only about 43 in 1929, and so is not the person in the photo.

    A Horace Winston Stokes is listed in a section of the Yale catalogue of graduates as "Bachelor of Arts, 1909."
    https://books.google.com/books?id=R...zgK#v=onepage&q=horace winston stokes&f=false

    And the writer/editor Stokes was from New York City, it appears.

    I do see a different Yale catalogue that lists an address for him in New York City:
    https://books.google.com/books?id=d...TgK#v=onepage&q=horace winston stokes&f=false

    Here is a listing for him from the Marquis Who's Who:
    HORACE WINSTON STOKES
    Occupation: publisher
    Born: New York, New York, Mar. 2, 1886
    Died Jan. 18, 1950.
    Son of Frederick Abbot and Ellen Rebecca (Colby) S.; prep. edn. Phillips Acad., Andover, Mass., 1904-05; A.B., Yale, 1909; married Mary Sanford Wheeler, May 22, 1920; children—Ellen, Mary Wheeler. Began as newspaper reporter on N.Y. Sun, also on N.Y. Herald-Tribune, 1910; editorial work with American Magazine, 1914-17; advertising with Frank Seaman, Inc., Crowell Pub. Co., 1920-26; with Frederick A. Stokes Co., Inc., 1926-41, pres., 1939-41. Served as private Squadron A, 1st Cav., N.G.N.Y., on Mexican border, 1916-17; 1st lt. 165th Inf., 306th Inf., U.S. Army, with A.E.F., 1917-19. Mem. Alpha Delta Phi, Wolfs Head (Yale). Club: The Players (N.Y. City). Author: Frog Face (a novel), 1946. Contbr. to mags. in the U.S. and Eng. Address: care W. C. Heaton Co., 25 W. 45th St., New York; N.Y
     
  15. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    But it's a good thought! I did look for some other authors from that issue earlier.

    If we could find contents for that issue of Pictorial Review, and also for those two issues of Time, maybe there would be some common name that might help to narrow it down?

    Of course, this assumes that those three issues are somehow connected to him.

    Fig
     
  16. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    "He was born in 1886, so..."

    Are u sure the pic was taken in 1929?
     
  17. Messilane

    Messilane Well-Known Member

    Given the phone, and the other items around him, it was probably close to that time.
     
  18. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Since three magazines around him were from 1929, I was assuming that was the time. Also, based on the look of the photo I would say that it wouldn't be much later. I don't think I've seen many sepia toned photos from later than, say, the 1930s. I'll have to look into that, though.
     
  19. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Another guess would be that he might be the illustrator of that cover? I haven't been able to figure out who the illustrator was yet, although I have found some other issues of that magazine where the illustrator was identified.
     
  20. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    The marcelled hair on the lady dates that mag to about the same time.
     
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