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Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by KSW, May 26, 2021.

  1. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Does this look legit please?
    It was left at the car boot sale after the gold hunters had been through a dealers table in a pile of Monet chains and gold plated. Thought it felt right but was still very surprised when I got home to see it has marks. Even more surprised that it tests as 18k :eek: Only tested on a stone as I didn’t want to hack a hole in it.
    The marks are a bit squidgy but look maybe more complex than forger would?
    Quietly hopeful it’s the real deal as its 11.5g......
    Also, is there a name for this type of chain please?
    Thanks for looking :)
    Edit- marked 41AR on clasp and end of necklace, all other marks just on necklace end.
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  2. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Italian marks. You may well have got lucky. The gold idiots I see at car boots are very good at missing stuff. If it doesn't have obvious UK hallmarks, they toss it on one side. I've had quite a bit that way.
     
  3. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    ooh, let’s hope so :nailbiting:
     
  4. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    It should read 750 for 18 ct. I think that's an Arezzo mark, but I could be wrong. Star is for Italy. The xxx erre will be the maker.
     
  5. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    I think the 0 in the lozenge is the end of 750 as I think there is a 5 in the middle.
    Research tells me ...erre could be Uno a erre so it’s all looking good :)
     
  6. Msalicia

    Msalicia Well-Known Member

    Yes, I believe it a old Italian goldsmith, the number 42 is they are the 42nd registered in the AR region or town. I have one same maker I think I recall Intrarre or something like that. Same or similar clasp. You would have to look at the Italian gold registry and I’m sorry I do not know the link off hand, hopefully the others will be of more help. I just read last post, I think U is correct. I also said 42 but I reread 41, my mistake.
     
  7. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Thankyou @Msalicia :) that is helpful :)
     
  8. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Thanks OBB :)
     
  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Yes, it is Arezzo.
    Looks like you were lucky this time K.:happy:
     
  10. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Yay!. I was hoping so but I’ve been conned before by shiny gold :hilarious:
     
  11. Pattywithay

    Pattywithay Well-Known Member

    Pretty sure that’s called Popcorn chain.
     
  12. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Certainly looks like it, Thankyou @Pattywithay :)
     
  13. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    You’d think if something even resembled gold or even silver and was well marked you’d make sure to figure it out first! Particularly if you didn’t recognize the marks. Thank goodness not everyone is so sensible I guess.
     
  14. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Maybe because the seller had already filtered out the hallmarked gold so people thought it wasn’t worth looking through his costume pile although he obviously hadn’t checked properly!
    The marks weren’t immediately obvious as they are very blurred. I don’t try to compete with the gold snatchers, I just trail along behind and scoop up the bits that they miss. I also go places that they don’t bother with like the bottom of boxes, inside tins of scrap etc so get bits that they wouldn’t find. Mainly silver though so this is a real windfall :smug:
     
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  15. Msalicia

    Msalicia Well-Known Member

    Well I have to agree to disagree to an extent. Ex: I was at a convention in San Francisco. I walked the wharf, paid $20 for chocolate (as a gift) and $1 at a linens shop that had a $1 basket of costume except the Gucci puffy link necklace, 750 has more of a brass look and some don’t know the 575,750 etc euro marks only Kt numbers. My friend grabbed a 24K not marked at all 1lb Buddha mini statue! I found a 18k thimble in a box of sewing and knitting stuff. It’s in the eye and feel if you are risking on the cheap! Happy hunting all!
     
  16. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Kudos, K! You got the eye for gold:cyclops::greedy::joyful:
     
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  17. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    That’s what I’m saying. The seller hadn’t filtered out all the hallmarked gold. Just the marks they recognized. If I had a piece that looked anything at all like it could possibly be gold and it had any marks blurred or not I would put it to the side and investigate. My point is who sees marks they don’t recognize on a nice piece of jewelry that looks gold and goes “eh, not English must be junk”? Again, I’m glad they do though. Good job! Indeed searching places others don’t pays off. That’s my specialty.
     
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  18. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    What exactly do you disagree with? I also love finding gold that doesn’t get caught by the sellers. My point is that seemingly a professional seller let a marked piece of gold slip through their fingers seemingly just because they didn’t recognize the marks and didn’t bother looking into them. As someone who also sells jewelry that seems crazy to me.
     
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  19. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    The gold scavengers I see at car boots aren't that educated in jewellery or precious metals. They know hallmarks, maybe, and that's it. They buy cheap and scrap the results, which is sometime verging on criminal.

    The good thing is that both they and some of the sellers they buy from, miss SO much.
     
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  20. Msalicia

    Msalicia Well-Known Member

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    She did say a boot sale. The dealers went thru and Missed it. Well dealers when scrambling amongst other dealers will put down what a better know dealer puts down and sometimes they pick up. Some are only dealers and some may not be looking around for gold, silver but more the stones they possibly are better equipped to snatch if they see a cut or color. The bottom line is she scored. Another ex of what I might look for. This was a broken bracelet with 2 of the medallions soldered back to back. But what I saw was this after drawing it out and finding a tool chain of a similar era and removed the toggle the chain was with and here is my marriage creation from a library sale at 4 pm after all the local jewelers had left. I have not got the hang of the thumbnail and photo image yet. Just one photo ignore thumbnail
     
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