Featured Many many german and dutch silver, I cannot find the hall mark of them ,seems mostly are continental

Discussion in 'Silver' started by Asian Fever, Sep 29, 2018.

  1. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

  2. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    proper German 800 mark since 1888 that was also used for import and export purposes; millions of times used on watch cases, sometimes even with 3 national marks when re-exported (e.g. Swiss/German/Russian).
    in this case two possibilities.
    a) import from France into Germany. round mark by producer and lozenge mastermark.
    b) import to France from Germany. round mark of the first shop that sold it in France AND was responsible that it was consistent with French regualations. as most resellers had no right to mark it was tested by a master that additionally marked with his lozenge mark.
     
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  3. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

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  4. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    sorry, but I take that as wishful thinking and one of these fairytales that arise on the net. the "joke" of Hanauer Silber was the acceptance by the different German state authorities - Germany didn't exist as a unit when this started but consisted of over 30 "states" - because those marks were used as export marks to Catholic countries that tried to stop import of Hugenot-made products.
    many people here and elsewhere have no knowledge of the history of continental Europe with its very complicated politico-ecomomical problems and solely depend on sites like those you linked. although these sites are immensely helpful for speedy everyday work and 99 % cases of research, they are not when it comes to special cases like Hanau. you don't have to believe it - which you wont anyways - but I NEVER read in one single trustworthy German source of quality of what you link here.
     
  5. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Clearly I am just too clueless to understand your rant regarding what were were prolifically produced silver pieces done in 'antique' styles and bearing marks intended to insinuate greater age - but these items were exported to various countries, not necessarily with primarily Catholic populations, as well as being sold in Germany to the tourist market. They were also produced in the Netherlands, also bearing pseudo-marks and often also having proper Dutch marks. Perhaps you might share some trustworthy references that support your beliefs and denigration of the research done by others on Hanau marks...

    Took me two minutes to find this Hanau decanter bearing the pseudo-marks of Storck & Sinsheimer along with the reichsmark and fineness (won't waste any time posting any others, know from experience that's pointless in any discourse with you):
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Ha...410510?hash=item2f22914c4e:g:FIAAAOSwze9bU83O

    ~Cheryl
     
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