Naval Officer? Indian Wars? Name

The military back when called those French Horns "Looped Horns" or "Bugles." They were the infantry insignias for decades. According to the following file, the infantry discontinued this insignia in 1875.

"In 1875 the 'bugle' or 'looped horn,' so long the badge of the infantry, was discarded for that branch, being replaced by crossed rifles with the number of the regiment in the upper angle. This was altered somewhat several months later when the letter of the company was ordered placed in the lower angle. Field and band musicians were to continue to wear the bugle and letter then prescribed."

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http://www.sil.si.edu/smithsoniancontributions/HistoryTechnology/pdf_lo/SSHT-0030.pdf

--- Susan

 

Susan, I think you forgot to attach the link referenced in your post. I thought it might be accessible via the link to the insignia, but have struck out finding it that way.

 

Sorry about that. Took me a few minutes to determine just which source it was. It was that article/publication on the Smithsonian site about US Army Headgear:

http://www.sil.si.edu/smithsoniancontributions/HistoryTechnology/pdf_lo/SSHT-0030.pdf

While I have your attention, Seattle Sue, do explain what happened to your Seahawks!!!! Gee, I almost typed Seattle Slew, 1977 Triple Crown winner. If I was a serious betting woman, I would have put a bundle on them. Now last year I was rooting for Denver, but this year we were cheering for Seattle against Brady and Belichick (sp??).

--- Susan

 

Thanks for the link. That looks like it will work. Somehow I missed it the first time.

Now, about the game. You'll really need to hear it from Pete. He went on about "using all the plays in the sequence" and not wanting to leave the Pats any time on the clock. Frankly, sounds like an excuse to me. My family was stunned. We all sat there with jaws on the floor. My son was even stamping his feet! (More like the behavior I would have expected from the 11 year old.)

I do have to say that after 32 years in MA, it was a tad odd to be rooting against the Pats. But then I've been here almost 10 years and the only 2 names I recognized on the Pats were Brady and Belicheck!

We'll be back!!

 

>I do have to say that after 32 years in MA, it was a tad odd to be rooting against the Pats. But then I've been here almost 10 years...<

I was born, bred and schooled in MA, but have been in Dixie for over 55 years. People wonder why I'm not a Pats fan. I left MA late 1959, the year the Pats materialized. Nowwww the Red Sox's are a different matter. I will be a Red Sox's fan until the end of time. Once every summer, my father took my brother, my grandfather and me to a Red Sox's game in Boston. What a treat that was.

--- Susan

 

Hey! I'm also from Mass! I also was raised and schooled here! (Clark University in Worcester) I left for a bit to New York and then to California. However, I now reside back here in MA lol I'm Pats and Red Sox as would be expected! Thank you both so much for all of your help. Heck of a Super Bowl.

 

Susan - Pete will be on the Today Show tomorrow (in an interview recorded here today.) We saw clips on tonight's local news. Should be interesting.

 

Awww! Lucky! I bet the 1970's at Clark were phenomenal! I graduated in 2008, so it has not been that long for me, but I absolutely loved being a Clarkie. I enjoyed being a Peer Advisor and Teaching Assistant while there. It was one of the more fulfilling things I've done in my life It's always a pleasure to meet a fellow Clarkie!

 

My husband was a basketball coach for 25 years and watches all sports. I usually read. We had friends over for the game. We were certain right up to the last 30 SECONDS that the Seahawks had won. We still can't get over that last play. Everyone is trying to figure out what Carroll was thinking. Anyway, it's great that the rookie got the great play and won and Tom Brady is such a gentleman, he gave the truck he received as MVP to the rookie, Butler. Nice gesture.

 

I helped the Odd Fellows inventory their old building and I can tell you that they have a locker full of swords like this. So do the Knights of Columbus and many other fraternal organizations. This really does not look military to me.

 

What I find odd is that he has no sash, medals, fraternal pins etc. I mean literally the only "marking" of his fraternity would be the hat mark. Which doesn't make much sense to me. I mean almost every photo I see of a fraternity member, they wear military gear, but also other fraternal type stuff. This seems so plain to me.

 

Military members have a lot more stuff on their uniforms. Too bad we can't see his shoulder boards.

 

If u want to ask ex-spurts post pix on Company of Military Historians forum and I will invite someone's attention to it.

We got no input there on the infantry badges because I guess I didn't email any of their members to ask them to attend to it, and the board there does not email anyone automatically regarding new postings, relying on members to check it voluntarily, which it seems few do. Also, I believed my answer here to the effect that the badges were probably original, was about as much as you'd get there.

However I'd be glad to request input from an ex-spurt there if u post the pic.

 

No no worries, I just figured I'd ask on here to see what folks thought! I wish his writing was better I think it may hold the key! Might need a expert on handwriting haha

 

Lots of German immigrants in the Troy area. Could be it isn't English.

 

Looks like the way Germans wrote longhand back then.

 

And it wouldn't be unusual to see a mixture of English and German. In the early 1700s, the French Huguenots were pillaging and burning German villages in the Palatine region. Nearly 100,000 Palatine Germans fled to England because the two countries were ruled by related monarchs. They were living in tents outside of London. Queen Ann decided to use them to colonize America and "gave" them land along the Mohawk Valley in upstate NY. Many people don't realize that the Pennsylvania Dutch are German, from Deutsch. Anyway, the actual Dutch from New Amsterdam (NYC) moved upstate as well and there are still many people descended from both ethnic groups. You could try Dutch as well as German.