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  1. Sparklepup1

    Sparklepup1 Member

    There is a third one and yes they are the browny purple colour shown in the picture.
     
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  3. Sparklepup1

    Sparklepup1 Member

    The 2nd picture is with a light shining on so the colour is clearer, under the muck. Do you think I should scrub it off?
     
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  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    :D
     
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    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

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  6. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    DO NOT SCRUB.

    Are you anywhere near the Museum of London?
     
  7. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Take it to a museum. Buried that deep, always a chance it could be ancient. I agree with "do not scrub"!
     
  8. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

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  9. Sparklepup1

    Sparklepup1 Member

    I’m an hour away from London so not too far. I never thought to take it into a museum
     
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  10. Sparklepup1

    Sparklepup1 Member

    Thank you I will email to them
     
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  11. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Please tell us their response. :)
     
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  12. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    You'll do better with the MoL or even the V&A. The MoL has an amazing archive of British and London glass, both items and references. A few years ago, I'd have suggested asking the Stourbridge museum but it's a bit shut for now.

    The Corning is excellent, but if you're in London, I'd go with a London authority. I'd also pop it over on some of the British glass Facebook pages. There's a couple of people there, to say the least, who are world leading. I've got some thoughts on this, but I'd really like to handle the thing before being conclusive. My suspicion is Monart, but others did stuff like this. Some much older.

    Can you give a tiny hint as to roughly where it was found?
     
  13. Cherryhill

    Cherryhill Well-Known Member

    The quality of work on the handles (ears) is beyond average work. It took considerable skill to achieve them. Beyond that I have nothing to add.
     
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  14. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Not that I expect he's around but it's worth a try:). @Andy McConnell

    Hard to tell from your photo but is that base from a mold?
     
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  15. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Andy M is on the Brit FB pages, as are Nigel Benson and some other clever peeps.

    Looks like handblown with a broken pontil to me. Monart - if it's them - did lovely quality. Vasart is another thought.

    OP, how old is the property you found this in?
     
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  16. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    The V&A is swamped with requests, I am still waiting for an identification request which I sent in over a year ago. That was to a different department though, maybe the glass department is less overwhelmed.
     
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  17. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I'm not suggesting Corning instead of other options, just as another resource for glass questions, particularly if the item might be old or unusual.
     
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  18. Sparklepup1

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    I have had a reply back from Andy m giving me an email address so will be sending him an email soon.
     
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  19. Sparklepup1

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    The building was built in early 1900’s in Plumstead area of London x
     
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  20. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Having just come upon your more recent photos, I looked and thought - the condition of that glass looks like ancient Roman examples I have worked with. Looking at the overall shape, it does look like some medieval examples:
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    https://ancienttouch.com/early-medieval_byzantine_migration-period_glass.htm

    Oddly, it also looks like a simple version of lamps used in Islamic mosques:
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    http://www.vam.ac.uk/content/articles/e/europe-islamic-mediterranean/

    It is definitely hand made. The irregular mark on the bottom is left by the pontil rod, used to manipulate the molten glass. It is unusual to find such a vessel intact, and it definitely merits some further research. I believe there is a system in England for reporting potentially important archaeological finds?
     
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