What do you call this?

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Kasperscuriosities, Feb 3, 2015.

  1. Kasperscuriosities

    Kasperscuriosities Two hundred years too late.

    I have two of these I am going to post the other one too but I have just been calling it a tray. I have searched for tea tray, coffee tray, serving tray, porcelain and metal tray but I can't bring anything like them up so it must be called something else. This one is in bad shape it has a lot of cracks but it is still very sturdy. The cracks don't seem to effect its usability in the slightest. The other one is in much better shape and doesn't have any cracks. The writing on the bottom is the only mark on this one. I am assuming the bottom is porcelain it is very heavy. The metal I don't know what it is. I don't think it is silver or anything. Just some type of metal. Sorry about the photos when I took pictures of it I didn't realize how bad the black backdrop would look. It did some funny things with the light. It's a little over a foot wide and maybe a foot and a half long. guesstimate.

    Thanks in advance. I know I have a lot of questions about things but I am green and you guys have just been so helpful. There are items I have tried to figure out for weeks but you guys are like search for this and yep there it is.

    tray.jpg tray2.jpg tray3.jpg
     
  2. Kasperscuriosities

    Kasperscuriosities Two hundred years too late.

    This is the other one it has a hallmark but I don't know it.

    othertray2.jpg othertray3.jpg othertray.jpg
     
  3. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    Maybe vanity trays?
     
  4. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

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  5. Kasperscuriosities

    Kasperscuriosities Two hundred years too late.

    Oh wow! I wish this one wasn't all busted up. Vanity tray? I would have never thought of that. Duh. I tried every other kind of tray. Thank you!
     
  6. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    I may be incorrect but I have had a few vanity trays with handles,porcelain and the silverplated gallery. I have also had trays similar for beverages,etc. So don't bet the farm on me ;)
     
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  7. Kasperscuriosities

    Kasperscuriosities Two hundred years too late.

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    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

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  10. Kasperscuriosities

    Kasperscuriosities Two hundred years too late.

    Beautiful! I love those brushes too. I would love to have a little bedroom vanity decked out with that stuff. Thank for sharing.
     
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  11. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    Your most welcome.
    I want a "rose room". I have collected so many dusty rose colored roses on trays,vases,lamps and everything else dusty rose,even my drapes are roses.:p Also lots of silver embellishments too.
    Some day I will clean out my hoard in my crowded bedroom and make it shabby chick :)
     
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  12. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    I think NP might be Nickel Plate.
     
  13. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

  14. Kasperscuriosities

    Kasperscuriosities Two hundred years too late.

    Nickel plate? I never thought of that either. Good point. Thank you.

    Ladybranch, that is what I assumed they were at first. Mainly cause my mom always had a coffee service setting on them. I assumed they went together but they don't. They are fairly large. 15x20 or so. right in there. Thanks for the help. That last link really looks similar. I am still reading through the pages you gave me. Thanks again.
     
  15. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    These porcelain trays generally originated in Germany. The metal is often plated.
     
  16. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    LOL.they look small in the pics, I guess I should have asked the measurements. :p
     
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  17. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    Found the backstamp of the 2nd tray, crown and shield. It is pictured on Kovels.com website in the porcelain marks section of Crown & Shield's 5th page. Nowww don't get excited. One has to be a subscriber of the website to see any info on the marks. :arghh: The 1st pic on this particular page is yours without the NP. There is a link to "View Entry." When the link is click it listed the info it will give if you log-in as a subscriber: Factory, Location, Date mark used, etc. I am not a subscriber. Possibly someone here is???

    http://www.kovels.com/marks/pottery-porcelain-marks/crown-shield/Page-2.html?start=100

    Directly to the mark detail page:
    http://www.kovels.com/marks/pottery-porcelain-marks/crown-shield.html?eid=9882

    I have one of Kovels' pottery & porcelain books Kovels' New Dictionary of Marks Pottery & Porcelain 1850 to the Present, 1986. This mark isn't in it. Nowwww do be aware that Kovels info can be flawed. There are errors in their work/publications.

    --- Susan
     
  18. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    Wow Susan, you are amazing :)
     
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  19. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    Hold the phone, I found the maker, Gerold Porzellan of Tettau, Bavaria, West Germany. I did an image search of the mark pictured on the Kovels site and found the mark on the Gerold Porzellan site. The following page has examples of this mark with timeframes. I haven't taken the time of figuring out the timeframe of your mark.

    http://www.gerold-porzellan.com/marks.htm

    Ahhhh, believe the NP stands for Neue Porzellanfabrik that translates to New porcelain factory.

    Here is more info and marks on Gerold. I don't see a mark exactly like yours. As it doesn't have Germany or West Germany on it, I wonder if it dates before 1890s. Do wait for others to chime in on the dating.
    http://www.porcelainmarksandmore.com/germany/bavaria/tettau-02/index.php

    BTW, have now found this mark in the Kovels' book I have. All they say is
    "Gerold & Co. New Porcelain Factory Tettau/Gerold & Co. Porcelain Factory Tettau, Bavaria, Germany (W. Germany)
    Porcelain
    1948-1981 + (1937-present)"

    Do note, yours does not have any Country of Origin markings. To me this may mean it was made before 1890s when CoO was necessary for import into the USA. Again, wait for others to chime in.

    --- Susan
     
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  20. Kasperscuriosities

    Kasperscuriosities Two hundred years too late.

    Oh my goodness you are amazing! Thank you. Thank you. That is awesome!
     
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