Sterling Plate Maker Assistance

I would appreciate the assistance of our resident silver experts in identifying the maker of this plate. Also, “916” mark seems inconsistent with my understanding of “sterling” requirements. I believe Russian silver is marked this way but not sure that is qualifies as sterling

Thank you

 

I’m seeing Spain as the origin on google. Maybe @DragonflyWink or @Bakersgma knows for certain.

 

Thank you, Abundverkaufen. Could I ask you to share your google search results?

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=spanish+silver

https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52655

 

Thank you. Interesting. A couple of old Russian pieces in your search but I agree, more consistent with the Spanish pieces.

 

There were several countries that used 916.

https://www.925-1000.com/a_Standards.html

 

Definitely not Russian/

 

But “sterling”? I understood 92.5% silver to be the standard but clearly I must be mistaken

 

No doubt about that! The design bears no resemblance to anything Russian.

 

Given that Spanish silver moved from 916 to 915 in 1934, I am guessing that this is not Spanish. I do not believe this piece to be that old.

 

Here's a similar item...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pair-of-An...=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

 

I understand that this does not help in this case, but sterling was not garenteed to be 92.5% in England until the 13th century. Even past that point, you would still see 935 sterling appear during the 18th,19th, and even occasionally early 20th century. My best guess is that this was made in Spain before 925 was the standard for sterling hallmarks.

 

Uh, not to rain on your parade, but designs that intricate were not commonly used during or immediatly after the depression due to the relativly high costs on manufacturing. I'd say that this could very well be from the mid or late 20s.

 

935 Sterling as a mark simply means that the 925 sterling standard had at least been met. It's not as fine as Britannia.

I don't know where that idea that elaborate designs weren't produced in the depresssion era comes from.

 

A very good match with sizing and weight very consistent! I would not have inferred that these were handcrafted as mentioned in this listing. While my dating appears to be clearly off, it at least affirms my understanding of sterling standards. Very well done and thank you!

 

This tray appears to have the same mark as yours.
https://en.todocoleccion.net/antiques/bandeja-plata-916-000~x197538850

 

Agreed. With one notable exception.....no mention of “sterling”!

 

JMHO.
from the subject Italian. system with thousands or in French millesimes would hint towards the independant parts and dukedoms and kingdoms that were occupied by the French after the Napoleonic campaigns.
http://www.silvercollection.it/TORINOHALLMARKS.html

even fake marks might be possible.
http://www.silvercollection.it/dictionaryforgery.html