Help With Two Chinese/Japanese Porcelain Plates

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by kardinalisimo, Jan 16, 2015.

  1. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    I am a bit confused about these pieces. The decoration looks like Japanese kutani but the hairdos of the geisha girls are not typical Japanese hairstyle. The shoes are kind of different too. They are usually depicted in black or the feet are covered all the way with the robes.
    I am thinking that they could be Chinese export for the Japanese market but why then the Qianlong mark (which by the way is not very well drawn).
    Not terribly old but I do see some age signs like scratches, gilt lost etc.
    Any help with determining the country of origin and approx. age?
    Thanks
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  2. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

  3. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Actually, I did not. But the mark is not the same, look at the way the M is painted. I don't think the mark would be of any help anyway.
     
  4. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    One of the most often seen marks -- at least as far as the forums I frequent. Here's the history on gotheborg: http://gotheborg.com/marks/qingmarks.shtml

    I don't know much about asian porcelain, but I'm thinking that these are better than average quality because the painting is pretty fine.
     
  5. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    After a bit of research I think that the decoration is Japanese Kinrande Imari. But still the hairstyle is not typical Japanese. The qianlong mark is spurious.
     
  6. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I should have added that the mark is spurious. These are Japanese. Thanks Kardinalisimo.
     
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