A Really Old Patina Brass Weight

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  1. Nathan Lindop

    Nathan Lindop 1: “?” 2: “!”

    Saw this in a box today at auction. When dyou think it’s from?

    The wear on it looks so cool, I’d want it as a paperweight more than anything. Thanks for any help

    Not the best photo, was in a bit of a rush. It has all the marks still

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  2. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    You've a VR mark in the centre, so 19th C seems likely. Have a look on oldcopper.org
     
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  3. daveydempsey

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    It also says 4lb above the upside down VR mark.
    Not saying it is not original but these used to be heavily counterfeited in the 70`s.

    I dealt with a guy 40 years ago who was churning these out from a bedsit along with the scales using fake punches, he went to jail.
    It was a serious offence back then under the weights and measures act.
     
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  4. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I know a bloke who "adds" engravings to bits of brass and copper and sells them at car boot sales. One day, Old Bill wil get him.
     
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  5. Nathan Lindop

    Nathan Lindop 1: “?” 2: “!”

    Sounds like I should know but what does VR stand for, something to do with Victoria.

    Also that’s well put me off it Davey haha . I won’t go for it anyway it’s in a large box and I don’t really want to deal with the other junk (junk to me) I’ll keep an he out for fakes though
     
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  6. Nathan Lindop

    Nathan Lindop 1: “?” 2: “!”

    I was assuming the CM referred to the monarch
     
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  7. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Nope. Definitely not the monarch. We use R - Rex/Regina to indicate the monarch. The CM and crown is the maker. The VR bit is Victoria Regina.
     
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  8. daveydempsey

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    If I remember rightly it was Customs & Excise that finally dealt with it, they had extreme powers anything affecting revenue got stamped on.
    If we searched a place we had to put things back as they were, customs could rip a place to bits and walk away.
     
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  9. Nathan Lindop

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    Nice to know VR. Thanks I’ll definately give this a miss though wait for an ancient one to come up :woot:
     
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  10. AuDragon

    AuDragon Well-Known Member

    Sorry Nathan, but what is it? Only one photo showing.
     
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  11. daveydempsey

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    Its a brass scale weight.
    like one of these.

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  12. AuDragon

    AuDragon Well-Known Member

    Got it thanks.
     
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  13. Nathan Lindop

    Nathan Lindop 1: “?” 2: “!”

    Sorry I haven’t been on. Yes it was a Victorian weight deduced by the guys here :happy: .

    I think it looks beautiful I’ll just wait till one pops up for a few pounds or in a box I want
     
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