Mystery plate

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by John Brassey, Feb 12, 2021.

  1. John Brassey

    John Brassey Well-Known Member

    3931655A-C283-40A0-8275-457BCD2909B6.jpeg 66292E6F-512D-4725-9264-98B0FD3CBD2C.jpeg A371D5AE-1AE4-4399-B61E-81EA27234977.jpeg Here’s an unusual piece. It’s quite crude in decoration but I feel it’s quite early due to the entirely hand painted decoration. The enamels including the butterflies have a Chinese feel and the man too looks pseudo oriental.

    I’ve not seen an English plate like it and I’ve not seen a Chinese plate with the light blue ground.
    I’ve seen some French chinoiserie but only on faience.

    Any ideas?
     
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  2. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    It's a cool design! Looks like a cross between the pope and fu manchu - definitely not Chinese, just a bit of fun to have around IMO
     
  3. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Looking at the chip, granular suggests bone china rather than continental hard paste so does point back home eh
     
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  4. John Brassey

    John Brassey Well-Known Member

    Yes that's the direction I'm looking in now. It's nothing special but it is a novelty.
     
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  5. ValerieK

    ValerieK Well-Known Member

    Strange combination of characteristics, fascinating! The butterflies and leaves look a bit like an early Victorian Staffordshire production, perhaps a crude replacement for a broken plate from another manufacturer, by someone who isn't quite sure what they are painting. The man could be a medieval monarch, maybe, but why has he got a handkerchief on a pole? The hat does look like a pope but a pope wouldn't show his legs like that. Looks a bit eastern European to me. The blue border looks wrong, somehow. What is it??? Please report back when you learn more.
     
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  6. SKCCOAST

    SKCCOAST Active Member

    I believe he is holding a parasol.
     
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