Everything But The House Laying Off 200 & Downsizing Number Of Cities

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by Joe2007, Apr 10, 2018.

  1. Joe2007

    Joe2007 Collector

    Cincinnati-based 'Everything But the House' laying off 200 employees
    http://www.fox19.com/story/37925208...ything-but-the-house-laying-off-200-employees

    According to some antique dealers I was talking to at an estate auction on Saturday this has been expected for a while. Organizationally EBTH is apparently a dumpster fire and over the past few years it has been getting away from the core reasons why it was successful in the beginning and has been chasing rapid expansion of its markets rather than financial sustainability. According to these dealers they have heard that EBTH is going to slim down to 8 cities, down from the current 19.

    Personally I'm not surprised since the quality of their estate sales has been very hit and miss over the past few years and instead of real antiques and accumulations they seem to be selling more newer items that don't look like they belong and were just thrown in to increase sales. An example of this is a sale that had quality antiques and collectables for the first 20 or so items but by the end was lot after lot of apple laptops and other electronics. In their first few years they had many estates from notable people in the community with interesting as found treasures and unique items. It was kind of like eBay's earlier years where it was more organic and less commercialized.

    Your Thoughts?
     
  2. Joe2007

    Joe2007 Collector

  3. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

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  4. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    Weren't they just mentioned in some type of new dealings with ebay? I tried looking around, but I could not find anything recent, but I know I heard or read something in the last week or so.
     
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  5. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    I found the thread I was thinking about. It was talking about the new show with Lara Spencer.
     
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  6. Joe2007

    Joe2007 Collector

    Their business model of shipping most items to their central distribution hub here in Ohio is totally insane. It makes shipping costs go through the roof and on low value items that makes them practically worthless.
     
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  7. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    If the show ever gets off the ground now. I wouldn't want my name linked with that bunch of Yahoos, but her mileage may vary.
     
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  8. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:
     
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  9. ChiaChic

    ChiaChic New Member

    I've been buying from EBTH for over a year. They have a lot of unique items. I have to confine my purchases to those I can pick up locally due to their outrageous shipping rates. I was told this week that they were closing all but 8 locations. They will no longer have a warehouse in Indianapolis, and there will be no local employees to assist with questions. Their local staff was incredible. If you are unable to pick up your items at the estate during the pick-up window, you will no longer have the option of paying for local delivery (usually $75 but still a great deal compared to their shipping rates); nor will you have the option of paying a fee to have the items sent to the local warehouse for a small fee. They will ship the item from Indpls to their Ohio warehouse then ship it from Ohio back to Indianapolis, and charge ten times what any other shipper would charge. Shipping often takes a VERY long time. Most of their recent sales have had very limited pick-up windows, like 1-4pm on a weekday. Sellers will no longer have the option of having all of the items transferred to the local warehouse instead of having all of the buyers come to their home. Everything I loved about EBTH is being eliminated. I don't know that I feel comfortable buying with no local representatives to assist with questions or problems; can't take off work to accommodate the limited pick up window and can't justify paying the shipping costs. Sounds like they are moving in the wrong direction to me. I'll miss them.
     
  10. Jeff Drum

    Jeff Drum Well-Known Member

    I never bought anything from them, didn't know about them until a few months ago. Found a local estate sale of theirs (a mile from me) with some genuine antiques that I thought would be worth looking at, but then I found that the only pieces that were available for local pickup were the very large items (bureau and bigger). That made me lose interest fast. There are enough estate sales in my area (and all areas) so that buying from an estate sale that advertises and ships across the US (and charges for the privilege) just didn't make sense to me. Why not allow two days of local pickup for everything before shipping to Ohio? I don't get it.

    I understand why it would be attractive to Sellers to get more eyes on the goods they need to sell, because they are the ones who are screwed by the lack of options that arise when they need to disperse their estate. But as a buyer, it just didn't make sense. Seems like a few simple changes to their business model would have made it work a whole lot better.
     
  11. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    They didn't operate much in my area; they don't sound very bright, so it's just as well.
     
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  12. Joe2007

    Joe2007 Collector

    More bad news for EBTH.

    I heard they had another round of mass layoffs in Cincinnati a few months ago. The quality of the items in their sales seems to be continuously slipping too.

    Investor accuses Everything but the House of 'misrepresenting' its financial condition
    Lawsuit: Online auction house lost $3M a month as it grew
    https://www.wcpo.com/money/local-bu...se-of-misrepresenting-its-financial-condition
     
  13. Joe2007

    Joe2007 Collector

    Everything but the House heads for liquidation process
    https://www.wcpo.com/money/local-bu...g-but-the-house-heads-for-liquidation-process

    Looks like they are done unless they find a white knight buyer to assume their liabilities. The people that I know that worked there have said the place was a dumpster fire with incompetent upper management making one size fits all policies that sunk the business and whom didn't know the first thing about collectables.

    An online estate sale marketplace is a great idea that is greatly underserved currently in the marketplace right now with boomers downsizing. Somebody will make it work and make some serious cash.
     
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  14. Mansons2005

    Mansons2005 Nasty by Nature, Curmudgeon by Choice

    One of their big mistakes was funding PBS programs for the advertising. It cost them a small fortune and I understand that they robbed Peter to pay PBS. Cash flow has become unsustainable regarding day to day operations.
     
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  15. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    They were run by idiots, and the idiots ran themselves into the ground.
     
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  16. Joe2007

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  17. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Thanks, Joe --

    I just found a later article that says that EBTH is being acquired by its original owners and co-founders, Brian Graves and Jacquie Denny -- along with a "syndicate of investors." This article is from one week later than the one you posted, and may be the buyers to whom they were referring.
    https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/08/31/embattled-ebth-finds-a-buyer.html
     
  18. DizzyDaff

    DizzyDaff Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.

    I see these posts are all a bit older. Has anyone else tried selling/purchasing since the original owners have taken over again? I do enjoy the HGTV show and have considered purchasing an item or two, but haven't taken the plunge as their shipping is a little high.
     
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