Chinese bowl with Xuande mark. Is it Ming or a new reproduction?

I have this bowl that is about 16 inches wide. It is fully handpainted under the glaze including the mark. The dark blue portions has metal in them which seems unusual to me. The base is unglazed and it is rough. It has a Xuande mark but I don't know if it is authentic or not. Link to high res pics of my bowl:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/153481cri38ftl1/AADvnN-U6yk5CYAr0FnhsCfca?dl=0
I have seen a few similar bowls with the same motif but without the metalic effect(at least from the pics I saw) online which have been attributed to Ming dynasty period but I have no idea if my bowl is that old or just some recent copy.

http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2015/chinese-works-of-art-n09317/lot.264.html

And another example with the same pattern but completely round
http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2012/ecwa-myt-iii-hk0406/lot.21.html

And another example:
https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/26609396_large-ming-dynasty-charger-with-grapes-motif

Photos of my bowl:

 

which photo is your plate ?

 

I have a similar ones with different patterns and the bottom is much nicer than this.
Exactly same as the one sold for 7000+ on liveauctioneer.


Do you want to buy them for cheap?

 

The photos in the post and the photos in the first link (dropbox) are from my bowl.

 

Can you post a picture of your bowl? Does your bowl have the same metallic blue paint as my bowl?

 

Ok, I will post one of the photos tomorrow. Those were Yuan Blue and white vases which were stored in my warehouse.

 

Did you find your bowl?

 

Cannot find my plates, I have a large pair of jar.

 

Color is much nicer than most of the plates, bowls or jars in auction houses.
It has a light purple color.

 

Your rust spots is not natural and they seems not shrink along the pattern of your plate. They should spread in the same place of same pattern rather than spread randomly everywhere.
If you believe your plate is authentic, I suggest to ask a professional appraiser. However, I do have seen many many plates similar or exact same pattern as your plate and even the ones sold in top auction houses.

 

Haha.... Just saw this hand writing.....
Now I know who made it.

 

Thanks for posting the pictures. That's a nice looking jar. How old do you think your jar is? My bowl doesn't really have any rust spots. It just has some shiny metalic effect but not rusted at all, while your jar clearly shows rust spots.
So you know who made the bowl? Who?

 

My jars are Yuan style jars. All of them are new production including your plate. However, my jar was made through the traditionally method (using Jingdezhen local dried pine wood)and original Mideast smalt in the kiln after yuan dynasty. The most important is, my jar was made from the original white bodies which digged from the local Jingdezhen runis.(Not including lid). So the body itself is over 700 years.
It can pass the examination of thermoluminescence. So the jars are newly made, but they are actually not totally new.... they're..... like "frankenstein" or "zombie".

 

Like this one, it's the same guy who made your plate. It is also a Yuan dynasty style jar.
https://www.realrareantiques.com/shop/ming-dynasty-vase-chinese-antiques-blue-and-white-porcelain/

I know who he is and where he lives and how much he sold for these.
But I cannot tell you who.
Cannot believe it, they are not even close to the real antique vases and plates. He sell them as decorative pieces, and I don't know how they can become antiques???

 

The vases and plates in that link look old and they are very expensive. My bowl has no crazing and looks like almost new. I also paid less than $150 for it. I figured even if it turns out not to be antique, it is probably still worth what I paid for it because of its size and being hand painted.

 

Hello again,
If you by any chance know of an example made by the maker that you were referring to in your post or any other maker which has the same metalic effect as my bowl then please post a picture or a link to it. It is greatly appreciated. My bowl doesn't have rust spots like your jar. The metalic areas are shiny and not rusted at all. It just seems as if either the blue paint had a lot of metal in it or the metalic efffect was applied after the painting was done. I have also seen similar examples to my bowl in terms of the pattern and the shape of the bowl but they don't have this shiny metalic effect. I will be extremely surprised if my bowl turns out to be even a late 19th or early 20th century bowl. But I have some limoges pieces that are more than 120 years old and look as if they were made just recently. So may be my bowl is somewhat old but well kept. I can hope Thanks.

 

I can get an exactly same charger for you.

 

One of his best piece, which he just sent me. Early Ming style under glazed red.